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    Re: Hill lawmakers spar over Rice’s remarks, involvement in Libya aftermath

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Bringing the attackers to justice is great but it's like the old adage of shutting the barn door after the horse is out.
    Yes, I'm sure it will be great satisfaction to their families to know their attackers are free and can continue their work. But hey, as long as it hurts Obama is the main thing right?

    And no, I'm not against any investigation, but the main focus should be to bring to justice those that did the actual killing.
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    Re: Hill lawmakers spar over Rice’s remarks, involvement in Libya aftermath

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    To me this is the real issue; do we now know that the "terrorists" involved included members of (or closely tied to) the very "interim gov't" of Libya that we fund/support? Reports of "police officials" taking photographs inside the "compound" were reported earlier the day of the attack. I feel that this is more likely why the "hold those responsible accountable" part was/is being delyed. What better reason (excuse) for delay than having months of "hearings" on side issues. Yes they can!
    The immediate response to something like this should have been the complete withdraw of any Americans in the country, shutting down and leaving the embassies, and cutting of any financial aid to such countries that have proven they cannot protect our citizens when in their country.

    The sickening part is there was a bill that was killed by the GOP that would withdraw financial aid from countries that were hostile to the U.S.

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    Re: Hill lawmakers spar over Rice’s remarks, involvement in Libya aftermath

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, I'm sure it will be great satisfaction to their families to know their attackers are free and can continue their work. But hey, as long as it hurts Obama is the main thing right?

    And no, I'm not against any investigation, but the main focus should be to bring to justice those that did the actual killing.
    You do realize we can go after the attackers AND find out who dropped the ball at the same time don't you?

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    Re: Hill lawmakers spar over Rice’s remarks, involvement in Libya aftermath

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You do realize we can go after the attackers AND find out who dropped the ball at the same time don't you?
    Tell me what the main focus is from the right. Getting the attackers or getting Obama? The answer is getting Obama. Sickening.

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    Re: Hill lawmakers spar over Rice’s remarks, involvement in Libya aftermath

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Who changed the CIA report, what was obama's role in this, what did he know and when did he know it? After we know these three things we need to know what obama did to cover these things up, yes this is "Benghazi gate".
    Benghazi gate? Really? The President and his administration might not have told the American public the truth? Stop the presses! If the administration has a reason for misleading us, say like they don't want the terrorist to know what we know, then I am okay with that.
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    Re: Hill lawmakers spar over Rice’s remarks, involvement in Libya aftermath

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Benghazi gate? Really? The President and his administration might not have told the American public the truth? Stop the presses! If the administration has a reason for misleading us, say like they don't want the terrorist to know what we know, then I am okay with that.
    I agree with you. Really? Watergate was the cover-up of massive illegal acts. There's quite a difference. There's plenty of machismo "gotcha" goin' on here. Again.
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    Re: Hill lawmakers spar over Rice’s remarks, involvement in Libya aftermath

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    What seems clear is that Rice was given certain talking points, supported by the intelligence community. This certainly was not all that was known at the time. It did represent as much info as the intelligent community wanted public at that time. There is no evidence that Rice knew more, or was authorized to say more, than she did on that Sunday. So I think the Rice issue is dead, or it shouold be.

    What also seems clear is that there was some kind of breakdown. Whether it was in communications, timing, response (or lack thereof) we do not yet know. We must let the committee do it's work. Listening to people trying to make political points without all the information is pointless and is not helping. As a matter of fact it is mking people look foolish. Those who postulated that the Petraeus scandal was designed to prevent him from testifying, McCain calling out Rice all last week, including at the time when new evidence was being presented, made him look like a dolt. McCain is widely respected, but this week he damaged his brand.

    Lets wait till we have the findings and go from there. I am sure at that time there will be an opportunity to make political points.
    Rice is the most predominant because she went on four shows and gave a UN briefing, but Hillary Clinton also made a statement that included making excuses about the video. To me that's almost worse, because Sec State is considered the preeminent cabinet position, because she sits right next to the President. There is no way that she went on TV and Obama didn't know what she was going to say. So there two key aspects to this catastrophe, 1) the total communication cluster-****, and 2) the lack of a decisive response to the violence perpetrated upon our Ambassador to Libya. In fact there has been no response to this day.
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    Re: Hill lawmakers spar over Rice’s remarks, involvement in Libya aftermath

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Benghazi gate? Really? The President and his administration might not have told the American public the truth? Stop the presses! If the administration has a reason for misleading us, say like they don't want the terrorist to know what we know, then I am okay with that.
    I don't think there is a grand cover up. What I think has happened is there were multiple failures that when added up, led to weaknesses in security. It will take time to figure out those exact failures and whom was at fault for them. I don't believe there is just ONE person responsible for the entire thing.

    The blood-lust by some to have Obama burned at the stake isn't helping a proper investigation though IMO.

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    Re: Hill lawmakers spar over Rice’s remarks, involvement in Libya aftermath

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Benghazi gate? Really? The President and his administration might not have told the American public the truth? Stop the presses! If the administration has a reason for misleading us, say like they don't want the terrorist to know what we know, then I am okay with that.
    So in your opinion the president saying it was about a you tube movie and was not terrorism made the terrorist relax, go home and watch TV huh. It had nothing whatsoever to do with the election and the DNC convention where obama said he had decimated Alquiada huh and there is the little thing obama said in the debates when he claimed the day after the attack that he stated it was terrorism. Nice try bud, LMAO

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    Re: Hill lawmakers spar over Rice’s remarks, involvement in Libya aftermath

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    In this I can agree with. From the start, whether the video sparked it or not (which we now know it didn't)
    I don't think it's accurate to say that we know the video didn't spark it. What we know is that there wasn't a street protest over the video, which is not the same thing as saying that the video didn't incite the attackers. There have been reports that the attack was hastily arranged in a matter of days and that the attackers were angry about the video.
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