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    Re: Man with strange watch arrested at Calif. airport

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do you have a picture of this alleged detonator watch and with clearly identifiable fuses on it?
    I've looked some...can't find any pictures of the watch or the boots.
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    Re: Man with strange watch arrested at Calif. airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I've looked some...can't find any pictures of the watch or the boots.
    I think if it was clearly what they say it was then they would have posted pictures. I think the first sentence in that news story use the words "could be used" is a dead give away that they were acting over zealous.
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    Re: Man with strange watch arrested at Calif. airport

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think if it was clearly what they say it was then they would have posted pictures. I think the first sentence in that news story use the words "could be used" is a dead give away that they were acting over zealous.
    Either that or this was a dry run with authority usurped somehow. As in the pictures where blocked and someone with the ability to block justice had the pictures excluded because it looked exactly like a bomb detonator inside and the dude had boom-boom in his shoes.

    But of course thats just pure guesswork to another possible scenario.
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    Re: Man with strange watch arrested at Calif. airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    While I think the TSA is, many times, heavy-handed and unreasonable with their actions...I believe they made the right call in this case. It looks to me like Geoffrey McGann was making a dry-run. He needs to be investigated.
    Yeah they made the right call. With absolutely no evidence or proof that the man was doing anything wrong, and with nothing on his possession that was illegal, we jailed him and keep him in jail for some undetermined amount of time and will bring him through the court system because he dared think that art was passable through TSA. Correct call for freedom! Oh wait.....
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Man with strange watch arrested at Calif. airport

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    But of course thats just pure guesswork to another possible scenario.
    Yup, and we no longer have to worry about proof. Just supposition, assumption, and hearsay! Huzzah!
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    Re: Man with strange watch arrested at Calif. airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yup, and we no longer have to worry about proof. Just supposition, assumption, and hearsay! Huzzah!
    As far as I know, he hasn't been convicted of anything...only charged with possessing bomb-making material. So your outrage is a bit hyperbolic, it seems to me. Anyway, if he goes to trial...that will be the time to see the proof.
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    Re: Man with strange watch arrested at Calif. airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    As far as I know, he hasn't been convicted of anything...only charged with possessing bomb-making material. So your outrage is a bit hyperbolic, it seems to me. Anyway, if he goes to trial...that will be the time to see the proof.
    Yay...let's arrest everyone and put them on trial. Evidence? A watch with no explosives, a shoe with no explosives, but hey...we need to be safe, right? It will all come out in the wash, right? I mean this guy will have his day in court, so there's no reason to be alarmed at this extensive and aggressive use of government force. He'll have the opportunity to prove his innocence eventually. Until then, he gets free room and board.
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    Re: Man with strange watch arrested at Calif. airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    As far as I know, he hasn't been convicted of anything...only charged with possessing bomb-making material. So your outrage is a bit hyperbolic, it seems to me. Anyway, if he goes to trial...that will be the time to see the proof.

    His rights and property are being deprived and his reputation is being tarnished without any evidence.
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    Re: Man with strange watch arrested at Calif. airport

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    His rights and property are being deprived and his reputation is being tarnished without any evidence.
    Hey now. But don't you feel safer? I mean this guy with an eccentric watch could have blown up a plane with the no explosives he had! People should know that no eccentric items are allowed through TSA. Flying is a privilege, not a right. And as such, you can be subjected to ANYTHING in your attempt to fly. Don't fight it, don't dissent. Submit! The government is here for our protection. And if you're not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about...less you try to take a strange looking watch through the TSA line.
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    Re: Man with strange watch arrested at Calif. airport

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Hey now. But don't you feel safer? I mean this guy with an eccentric watch could have blown up a plane with the no explosives he had! People should know that no eccentric items are allowed through TSA. Flying is a privilege, not a right. And as such, you can be subjected to ANYTHING in your attempt to fly. Don't fight it, don't dissent. Submit! The government is here for our protection. And if you're not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about...less you try to take a strange looking watch through the TSA line.
    The fact they only charged him with possessing materials to make an explosive device is pretty clear that they don't have anything on him.Practically anything could be used to make an explosive or explosive device.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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