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Congress demands EPA’s secret email accounts

TacticalEvilDan said:
No, you didn't. There's a big difference between:



... and ...



One says Jackson did something wrong, the other said that a House comittee will be investigating whether or not Jackson did something wrong. You are smart enough to know the difference, which means you edited that quote deliberately.



I've read several articles on the situation with Jackson and understand it quite well. You apparently didn't read your own thread, or else you would've understood why union dues came up.

Please stop being passive-aggressively dishonest.
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I am not being dishonest here. I am quite open in saying that I think that these emails are being used for exactly what the committee wants to investigate them for. Now, if you want to give any in the Obama administration the benefit of the doubt then fine, but one thing the EPA should do is come clean, otherwise they just look guilty.
 
Hairytic said:
My point is, we don't even know if secret emails are being used to begin with. It sounds like a made up story designed to put suspision on Obama of wrong doing. It's just another made up scandal that will go no where.
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If you don't even know, then there should be no harm in releasing to the committee what they are requesting right?
 
j-mac said:
If you don't even know, then there should be no harm in releasing to the committee what they are requesting right?
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Oh, I have no problem with an investigation, but it's starting to get rediculous. If there is nothing to release, then what? I just smell amother made up scandal.
 
Hairytic said:
Oh, I have no problem with an investigation, but it's starting to get rediculous. If there is nothing to release, then what? I just smell amother made up scandal.
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*throws hands up in the air* Well, what the hell.....? I guess we should just not question a single thing this administration is doing, whether it smells or not? I sure do hope the next time repubs are in charge you all remember what you are saying here.
 
j-mac said:
*throws hands up in the air* Well, what the hell.....? I guess we should just not question a single thing this administration is doing, whether it smells or not? I sure do hope the next time repubs are in charge you all remember what you are saying here.
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What have you got on Obama so far? Benghazi? Lybia? Mali? Not even the big name Washington Republicans in DC are following up on that nonsense. Face it buddy, you lost the election and now want to find something to lynch Obama with. Sadly for you, the man will stay in power for the next 4 years. How do you like them apples?
 
Hatuey said:
What have you got on Obama so far? Benghazi? Lybia? Mali? Not even the big name Washington Republicans in DC are following up on that nonsense. Face it buddy, you lost the election and now want to find something to lynch Obama with. Sadly for you, the man will stay in power for the next 4 years. How do you like them apples?
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Not just 'Sadly for me' my misguided friend, no, not just me....sadly for America.
 
Your Star said:
History laughs at this statement.
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I tend to agree, however, because of the total lack of transparency, there's just no way to tell if that statement is accurate or not.

Considering the track recond of any political party in power for more than two seconds, I can see where folks would speculate thusly.
 
I have a work email address and 2 or 3 non work email addresses. I use my work one for work. I use my others for non-work.
Sometimes when I am at home I do work and send things from non-work to work. Sometimes when I am at work I send thinks from a non-work addy for a non-work related item.

It is nice to say you should never do non-work stuff at work. The fact remains we all have lives outside of work and we have to tend to those parts of our lives. Sometimes we have to do it during office hours.
It should not be encouraged, but it should be accepted that on occasion it will happen. At least for 99% of us.

If this is abused, then there is a problem and it needs to be dealt with.

I don't think instituting hefty fines to an admin assistant because she emails her son a reminder to take the feed the cat on a non-government email addy is appropriate.

Let's find out where the investigation takes us before we start with tough rules and calls for more transparency.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Let's try that again: "A House committee has launched an investigation into whether EPA
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They know she used an email address that was outside of normal government scrutiny.. as was quoted before, it was found to exist from EPA documents obtained by a FOIA request.
 
Arbo said:
They know she used an email address that was outside of normal government scrutiny.. as was quoted before, it was found to exist from EPA documents obtained by a FOIA request.
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Yes, yes, yes, and for what is still the question.
 
Arbo said:
Even more to the point that you are not really paying attention.
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Once again, I don't care what you think is typical of "the left," I'm talking about how you've behaved in this thread and I'm not going to let you use someone else's behavior (or a generalization about the behavior of a group of people) to deflect my attention.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Yes, yes, yes, and for what is still the question.
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It doesn't matter, if it is known that a government agency has 'secret' email accounts, that is a problem. It goes back to that whole transparency thing.

TacticalEvilDan said:
Once again, I don't care what you think is typical of "the left," I'm talking about how you've behaved in this thread and I'm not going to let you use someone else's behavior (or a generalization about the behavior of a group of people) to deflect my attention.
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Now you are just mumbling on in a nonsensical manner. If you disagree with something I have said, say so and back it up.
 
Arbo said:
It doesn't matter, if it is known that a government agency has 'secret' email accounts, that is a problem. It goes back to that whole transparency thing.
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Back up -- so far we're talking about an investigation into one government employee who is known to have one e-mail account which is private, the goal of which is to see if she uses that account for EPA business. Everything else is from some guy writing a book. Let's take the accusations one step at a time, shall we?
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Back up -- so far we're talking about an investigation into one government employee who is known to have one e-mail account which is private, the goal of which is to see if she uses that account for EPA business. Everything else is from some guy writing a book. Let's take the accusations one step at a time, shall we?
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That's what you are talking about, as you are trying to minimize that there is something 'wrong' going on.
 
Arbo said:
That's what you are talking about, as you are trying to minimize that there is something 'wrong' going on.
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No, I'm just reiterating the actual scope of the investigation -- since that's all we can do in the complete absence of proof. You, for whatever reason, are bent on making this into something it isn't yet.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
No, I'm just reiterating the actual scope of the investigation -- since that's all we can do in the complete absence of proof. You, for whatever reason, are bent on making this into something it isn't yet.
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Again, you are incorrect. That is really becoming quite a habit for you.

ANY government official, that has a 'official' but secret email account, is a problem. Period.
 
Arbo said:
Again, you are incorrect. That is really becoming quite a habit for you.
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What is the actual scope of the current investigation? Is there any proof of any wrongdoing?

Arbo said:
ANY government official, that has a 'official' but secret email account, is a problem. Period.
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That's what is being investigated, isn't it? Has anything been proven yet?
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
What is the actual scope of the current investigation? Is there any proof of any wrongdoing?



That's what is being investigated, isn't it? Has anything been proven yet?
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Look, I understand you don't get it. I understand you appear to be fine with anything 'your guys' do. Really, there is no point wasting any more time on this with you.
 
Arbo said:
Look, I understand you don't get it. I understand you appear to be fine with anything 'your guys' do. Really, there is no point wasting any more time on this with you.
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So I tell you what it's about from what is said in the article cited in the OP, you imply that the situation is something else, I ask you what that something else is, and this is your response?

Have fun in La-La Land.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
So I tell you what it's about from what is said in the article cited in the OP, you imply that the situation is something else, I ask you what that something else is, and this is your response?

Have fun in La-La Land.
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Tell me Dan, how is an investigation supposed to be conducted if access to that being investigated is denied?
 
Your Star said:
I'm laughing at the thought that this is the most corrupt administration in our countries history. To claim this just reeks of either intense partisanship, a lack of historical understanding, or both.
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So you believe this administration is corrupt, just not the most corrupt? And to claim this you must be either one or both of two things....:lol:

I can see a case being made for someone seeing this as the most corrupt administration. For us young-ins, I can read text in a history book about a more corrupt administration all day. But to actually see it live is different than reading about it.

It is similar to reading about a murder that occurred 100 years ago, and watching it live. The one 100 years ago may be more grotesque, but I guarantee you someone witnessing a murder live will say the one they saw is more grotesque.

To brush his observations aside as partisanship or understanding is flawed.
 
Hairytic said:
What proof do you have that this story is true? There have been so many stories that ended up being untrue and baseless. So far it's just speculation, but I welcome yet another hearing that costs the tax payers more money. If something comes of this story then I will be the first to say I was wrong, but the GOP keeps accusing the Obama administration of wrong doing and nothing comes of these accusations.
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House investigates EPA emails, as agency says administrators have two accounts | Fox News

Well if you want to play that game, we can question every link put up as not being proof.

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