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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And for some people, that can mean the difference between making your rent or not. Or being able to afford an expensive medical procedure for your child. The difference in pay looks pretty small when you describe it as the difference between the numbers 18 and 20. But it can mean a whole lot more than that to those bakers.

    Frankly, I think we'll be better off without Twinkies. Though I'll have to wonder what we'll eat when the zombie apocalypse comes. Twinkies were a staple of the 28 Days Later diet.
    Logically, however, I must presume that it's much more difficult to pay that rent with $0/hr than with $18/hr. Now 18,500 people are jobless, a company that has been in business for over 80 years has gone belly-up, and I can't help but wonder if the union is proud of itself.

    Besides which, I adore Twinkies and Hostess Chocolate Cupcakes.

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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I liked Twinkies, and love Ding Dongs. Good thing they are designed to survive nuclear war. I am going out and stocking up. Soon they will be selling ding dongs on Ebay for ten bucks or more a pop. I intend to get in on the ground floor for that action.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

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    Brain food, apparently!
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    It seems to me that you're just typing things at random. Have fun with that.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Logically, however, I must presume that it's much more difficult to pay that rent with $0/hr than with $18/hr. Now 18,500 people are jobless, a company that has been in business for over 80 years has gone belly-up, and I can't help but wonder if the union is proud of itself.

    Besides which, I adore Twinkies and Hostess Chocolate Cupcakes.
    I am stocking up on the remaining supplies. I will be selling them on Ebay for an obsinely confiscatory amount of money.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It seems to me that you're just typing things at random. Have fun with that.
    I was recommending some Ding Dongs. So in the future you might not be so confused about why what you term ’suicide’ can be an entirely logical, appropriate response to someone telling you they want the same thing for less money.

    That is where the sly dog is, down the cherry river!

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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    So, if Hostess goes the way of the dinosaur can we stop honoring the Twinkie Defense?

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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    Or. An example of management screwing up so badly that the company could not afford to pay wages that people will accept rather than no job.
    I might accept that, if not for the fact that the Teamsters Union is also castigating the Bakers Union over the coals for their strike. And do not forget, this was all started when a Bankruptcy Judge ordered contract concessions as a way to try and save the company.

    The Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union went on strike Nov. 9 after a bankruptcy judge in White Plains, New York, imposed contract concessions opposed by 92 percent of the union’s members. The union represents about 5,000 Hostess workers.
    Officials of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, representing about 6,700 Hostess employees, were “incredibly disappointed” and “angry” about the shutdown, Rayburn said. The Teamsters union yesterday urged the bakers’ union to let members decide by secret ballot whether to continue the walkout.

    Drivers represented by the Teamsters earlier ratified a new contract with 8 percent in wage concessions and 17 percent in benefit reductions. Teamsters members “understood what was at stake and voted to protect all jobs at Hostess,” the union said in today’s statement.

    Rayburn, who previously helped to guide companies including Syntax-Brillian Corp., Indianapolis Downs LLC and Sunterra Corp. through bankruptcy, said yesterday that Hostess lacked the financial strength and manpower to stay open during a strike.

    “When you get to a certain point, customers are going to say, ‘Hey, you know, I’ve been as supportive as I can be but I can’t be out of stock,’” Rayburn said in today’s Bloomberg Television interview.
    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...n-after-strike

    Yes, the company was in financial trouble, this is nothing new. But seriously, when a company is on the vergy of bankruptcy, is it really logical to go on strike? That is like setting your house on fire because it is being robbed.

    So yea, I guess all of those Bakers are happy now. Now they can all go out and find higher paid job.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    I don't think the bakers' union is going to get much sympathy from anyone who doesn't reflexively think unions are never wrong, and management always is.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Logically, however, I must presume that it's much more difficult to pay that rent with $0/hr than with $18/hr. Now 18,500 people are jobless, a company that has been in business for over 80 years has gone belly-up, and I can't help but wonder if the union is proud of itself.

    Besides which, I adore Twinkies and Hostess Chocolate Cupcakes.
    So people should just accept when they are forced into a bad situation and not seek to change it? That's not very American. We should meekly accept the lot given to us? I thought striving and taking risks is something we reward in this country.
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