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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And for some people, that can mean the difference between making your rent or not. Or being able to afford an expensive medical procedure for your child. The difference in pay looks pretty small when you describe it as the difference between the numbers 18 and 20. But it can mean a whole lot more than that to those bakers.

    Frankly, I think we'll be better off without Twinkies. Though I'll have to wonder what we'll eat when the zombie apocalypse comes. Twinkies were a staple of the 28 Days Later diet.
    if you cant pay rent making $18 per hour you really need to step back and look at your income vs. outgo and figure out what you are doing wrong, its not the employers fault .......and tell us how does one need to make to afford an expensive medical procedure?.....and why throw the "children card"?...my wife just had a procedure done las week that cost me $1700 out of pocket after insurance.....do i need to go talk to my boss about a raise?...NO, i just man up and take care of MY business, its not my employers problem..............besides, $18 per hour to make cupcakes?...really?...we're talkin cupcakes, not digital cardiac pacemakers............thats whats wrong with the Auto unions, paying somebody $40 per hour to screw on a door handle

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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by fishinRod View Post
    do i need to go talk to my boss about a raise?...NO, i just man up and take care of MY business, its not my employers problem....
    So why doesn’ t Hostess “man up” and take care of their own business rather than going to the workers for the pay cut?

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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    Or maybe the Teamsters thought they got a better deal than the bakers, maybe they did get a better deal compared to what they were looking for, and wanted the bakers to take the hit so they could keep their own deal. *shrug*
    I linked to the Teamsters' statement in the other thread. There's no maybe; they said straight out that the strike was suicidal because Hostess just couldn't do what the bakers' union wanted, and warned against them assuming liquidation was a bluff. They accepted their deal because they knew they couldn't get any better and wisely chose less pay over no jobs.

    o, why did you not buy more Twinkies to the amount that would have kept Hostess afloat? <— serious, non-rhetorical question
    How is that POSSIBLY a "serious question"? I, personally, am obligated to keep Hostess afloat? That's as stupid as anything I've ever read on DP.

    And as a rhetorical question, it has nothing to do with what I said.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Maybe the Zombie 'pocalypse was connected to Hostess going out of business. It all comes full circle!
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And for some people, that can mean the difference between making your rent or not. Or being able to afford an expensive medical procedure for your child. The difference in pay looks pretty small when you describe it as the difference between the numbers 18 and 20. But it can mean a whole lot more than that to those bakers.

    Frankly, I think we'll be better off without Twinkies. Though I'll have to wonder what we'll eat when the zombie apocalypse comes. Twinkies were a staple of the 28 Days Later diet.
    Ahh now they dont have ANY job let alone one that dont pay them enough. Hmmm I dont know but 2 bucks an hour, I think I can trim a bit to make ends meet and start looking for another job. Just me.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I linked to the Teamsters' statement in the other thread. There's no maybe; they said straight out that the strike was suicidal because Hostess just couldn't do what the bakers' union wanted, and warned against them assuming liquidation was a bluff. They accepted their deal because they knew they couldn’t get any better and wisely chose less pay over no jobs.
    There is no maybe because nobody ever has their own motivations or agenda, or just their own POV for that matter, left unsaid behind a public statement they release?


    How is that POSSIBLY a "serious question"? I, personally, am obligated to keep Hostess afloat?
    Exactly. Same for the bakers, they are not personally obligated to keep Hostess afloat. Yes, even if the Teamsters want them to. They may have self-interest in doing so but they do get to decide on the existence and parameters of that self-interest.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    So why doesn’ t Hostess “man up” and take care of their own business rather than going to the workers for the pay cut?
    They are in bankruptsy. This means they have NO money. More accurately not ENOUGH money to pay the bills and pay the workers let alone make a profit. Hence the workers needed to realize this. They didnt, now they have no jobs. Something tells me if life was hard before, its nothing compared to what they are facing now. I wonder why the union members went on strike in the first place? Didnt the union tell them that Hostess doesnt have enough money? And why would a union be foolish enough to go on strike with a company in bankruptzy in the first place? I guess that job sucked so much that they just didnt care if the company went under. If the job was that bad why work there at all? Or for an extended period of time? Sometime I wonder if people even bother to think.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Twinkies will be a big loss to the American waistline. Every cloud has a silver lining.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    They are in bankruptsy. This means they have NO money.
    They need to man up! That isn’t the other guy’s problem!
    I guess that job sucked so much that they just didn’t care if the company went under. If the job was that bad why work there at all?
    My guess is for the current wage? There are breaking points, people have their price. *shrug*

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