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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Well everyone has opinions but I'm extremely proud of crossing the line of a blue flu as a young officer and giving my community 14 hours a day - not too mention the 6 hours of over time was killer. If you think anyone not in a union is a boy toy of the rich what is a unionite - a boy toy of a socialist union boss?
    You have to believe everybody is as slavish as you and that sticking up for your rights really means slaving for a different Master.
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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    So why the unions and strikes then?

    I tell you, I lost all my confidence in MLB and in one of my favorite pitchers, Orel Hershiser, when they went on strike. Back in 1994, he was the Players Spokeshole during the strike, when we had no baseball at all. And back then, he went on camera and almost cried at how "abused" the players were, and how they "were not getting their fair share".

    All the time, he was making over $4 million a year.

    Oh yes, my heart really bled for him. It bled so bad I have never been to a baseball game ever since. This is a guy that is tallented, but he makes more throwing a ball in 2 months then I will ever make in my entire lifetime. Then he has the nerve to get up and say how it is not enough.

    That is my general opinions of unions now. They will lie, cheat, and abuse the system however they can to exploit as much money as they can. And what about the thousands of others that work at the stadiums? I have sold concessions at sporting events myself, for comission and nothing else. Now I made pretty damned good money doing it, but when there is a strike it throws all of them out of work also. And the cleaning crews, and the security, and the parking attendents, and everybody else that relies on that income to put food on the table.

    So they feel abused and strike, and to hell with the people who really are working hard to make ends meet. Baseball, football, hockey, basketball, I for one am sick to death of all the overpaid union primadonnas. They make often times insane wages, and the burden is then shifted to those of us that buy their products. But they do not are, as long as they get the most they can.

    $18 and free health benefits for bagging groceries? $4 million a year for throwing around a baseball? $25 an hour for driving a school bus 4 hours a day? It is no wonder that our economy is broken, and more and more people are trying to ditch unions when they can.

    And don't give me the "they deserved it" nonsense. The Teamsters thought the offer was more then fair, and they and their members voted to accept the new contract. And they are pretty pissed at the Bakers, for forcing them all to loose their jobs because they were not willing to negotiate. So because of one union, two unions now have members without jobs.

    Good going there.
    More hypocrisy by those who don't show such resentment to their very own bosses. There is a kind of union of CEOs that gets them their obscene salary and bonuses, 456 times the lowest paid worker as opposed to Japan's 11 times. But you only show sympathy for the underpaid sports-concession worker, never for the victims of the pigs who oink out such propaganda against workers sticking up for their rights through the power of numbers, the only power they have in this topheavy system. In sports, I call the owners grassgrowers. If you eliminate the players, the only revenue the owners would get would be from people who wanted to watch the grass grow. It's the same everywhere else, but Capitaliban advertising makes people believe that the corporate bigshots create the products. From an unbrainwashed perspective, the owners and CEOs only hike the ball; the employees make the ball move.

    Imagine a graduate of a Capitaliban madrassah commenting on a 90-yard run from his new Oinkonomics perspective. "The center just created a touchdown!"
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    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    when workers own their workplace, they can do whatever they want. Until then, tough cookies as long as the law is being complied with.

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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound
    From an unbrainwashed perspective, the owners and CEOs only hike the ball; the employees make the ball move.
    In your scenario, when there are as many centers as there are halfbacks, then we'll talk.

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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    More hypocrisy by those who don't show such resentment to their very own bosses.
    Actually, my boss is the US Taxpayer. So no, quite obviously I do not show resentment towards them.

    Should I start to resent them? I know, I and my other million plus will unionize, and go on strike, demanding fair wages and overtime compensation. I mean, what in the heck do the people of this country think, making me work 24-36+ hour shifts, with no compensation! And to tell me I have to pack up and move from California to North Carolina to California to Alabama to Texas to California, just because that is where they think I should be!

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    Re: Twinkies maker Hostess going out of business

    I'm thinking part of the company reorganizes down here in the south, except they will be making Twankies.

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