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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    They would tell us when a grievance had real merit.
    That's what's gone today, I think. Adversarial 125% of the time. And that's why most people think they're ***holes.
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's what's gone today, I think. Adversarial 125% of the time. And that's why most people think they're ***holes.
    yeah that is true. I'd talk to the head of the local and get his perspective, go talk to the supervisor who refused to settle the grievance and generally it would be worked out. Not so much anymore.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    And employees dont work for free either.
    Not unless they are willing to. "Employment at will" both ways.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How does making a personal attack against me negate the vitriolic attacks made against unions in this thread?
    Dont post highly irrational diatribes stereotyping those politically opposite you and I wont call your posts irrational, hate filled diatribes. You want to debate, fine, debate. Launching stereotype broadsides across a bunch of people then pissing and moaning when you get called on it is not a personal attack---its calling you out for ****ty, whiny, hypocritical behavior.

    Someone needs to start calling you out for this passive agressive whinefest you keep playing.

    Before you cry your little head off about a personal attack, go back and examine everything I said--I am attacking your behavior and posting habits. YOU can end the criticism by being a better poster---stop doing stupid **** and Ill stop calling you out for it.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post

    Before you cry your little head off about a personal attack, go back and examine everything I said--I am attacking your behavior and posting habits. YOU can end the criticism by being a better poster---stop doing stupid **** and Ill stop calling you out for it.
    How does you making repeated personal attacks upon me provide any intelligent substitute for a lack of any evidence or foundation for you failing to refute the actual views I presented in my posts?
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    And employees dont work for free either.
    that is not always correct. however, neither is a company in competition with others going to pay employees more than their labor is worth for long and survive.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How does you making repeated personal attacks upon me provide any intelligent substitute for a lack of any evidence or foundation for you failing to refute the actual views I presented in my posts?
    Maybe because your view, is in fact, a wide based personal attack. You begin providing an intelligent rejoinder and Ill provide you with an intilligent response.

    Dont launch your own attacks and then call the waaaahmbulance when I put on a helmet and start playing hardball.

    Reminder for everyone about the post that has Haymarket claiming Im attacking him:

    Originally Posted by haymarket

    You are new here. Allow me to illuminate the darkness for you: Pavlov's bell has rung and the creatures of the right which hate unions as a matter of knee jerk reflex have salivated and attacked as a matter of course. The details do not matter. the facts do not matter. Reality does not matter.

    The only thing that matters is that is is a chance for the warriors of the right to bash unions.

    In a week or two or three it will be something else that fuels the rabid anti-union fires. The people defending Hostess here do NOT give a damn about the company, their employees or their products. It is merely an excuse to continue their war on unions.
    You just admit you were wrong to play stereotypes and Ill leave you alone. But if you keep persisting in whining about about personal attacks after making a retarded post like above, Im going to keep dogging you.

    Short version: thats not a view its a smear. You think Im attacking you? Quit whining about it and hit the triangle.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Maybe because your view, is in fact, a wide based personal attack. You begin providing an intelligent rejoinder and Ill provide you with an intilligent response.

    Dont launch your own attacks and then call the waaaahmbulance when I put on a helmet and start playing hardball.

    Reminder for everyone about the post that has Haymarket claiming Im attacking him:
    Here was the part of the post from Zalatix that I responded to

    Hostess was going under, regardless. After all that has come out about the venture capitalists that Mafia-style busted-out that company, it's amazing to see any rational, well-informed person is still pushing the Union meme.
    Zalatix has just recently become a member here. The poster clearly expresses wonder and amazement that people in this thread still continue to push an anti-union message despite the information coming out that undercuts their position. What I did was to inform the poster of an existing and very real dynamic that exists here.

    You call this my own personal attack. It was not. I did not mention a single person by name or identify and specific persons. I dealt with the message rather than the messenger. Perhaps you saw this as a personal attack because you yourself recognized you as being part of what I described? if so, that is on you and not me.
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Translation: They would have earned more than $1 for a years work.

    While at the same time, demand that their employees take a pay cut and a wage freeze which would take years to get back to where they were.
    How many years is it going to take the idiots now?

    How many years is it going to take the large amount of individuals willing to accept the court suggested, to my understanding, cut thanks to the idiots who caused them to lose their jobs due to their stubbornness to take any cut?

    Somehow, I think it'll take longer than it would've with the pay cut.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    How many years is it going to take the idiots now?

    How many years is it going to take the large amount of individuals willing to accept the court suggested, to my understanding, cut thanks to the idiots who caused them to lose their jobs due to their stubbornness to take any cut?

    Somehow, I think it'll take longer than it would've with the pay cut.
    The company was going to go bankrupt anyway. The problem is much more fundamental than employee wages.

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