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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The white collar wet dream. Management is absolved of all wrongs.
    No one has argued such, and you are better than ridiculous straw men, winston.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No one has argued such, and you are better than ridiculous straw men, winston.

    BS plenty have blamed unions never the bad management.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The company could have continued had management done their job in the first place.
    If by that you mean refuse to accept terms that would result in the death of the company, then the answer is that they did do their job.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    BS plenty have blamed unions never the bad management.
    Well in this case it is largely the unions' fault. Management didn't (as near as I can tell) decide to mass-invest in a new product that consumers hated, or try to expand production faster than the market would bear. That in no way whitewashes or absolves any screwups by management; and the notion of moral blame in a question of business viability is sort of.... off. It's the managements' job to see the best result for the company. Unions have a different focus of effort, and one that often clashes with what is best for the company. Except that in competition, when what is best for the company doesn't happen, the company dies. That's why unions shrink in the private sector over time - the businesses that they are attached to tend to die off.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    If by that you mean refuse to accept terms that would result in the death of the company, then the answer is that they did do their job.
    No that is not what I mean. I mean people did not take their fiduciary responsibilities seriously that were in charge of it.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The company could have continued had management done their job in the first place.
    No, they couldn't have. This is a perfect example of greedy labor unions driving businesses out of business.

    Also, Hostess will still be around they will just sell their rights to the brand name and assets to the highest bidder - which will more than likely in-turn staff the bakeries with temporary workers to avoid the union nonsense.

    Quite frankly I'm more than satisfied with seeing a business telling the greedy labor unions to tell them to stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

    Maybe those 18,500 collectivists out of work will think twice the next time they have a job and start making outrageous demands.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Well in this case it is largely the unions' fault. Management didn't (as near as I can tell) decide to mass-invest in a new product that consumers hated,
    What product was that?

    I remember New Coke BTW

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    No that is not what I mean. I mean people did not take their fiduciary responsibilities seriously that were in charge of it.
    by which you mean?

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What product was that?

    I remember New Coke BTW

    No, they didn't. New Coke would be a great example of It Being Managements' Fault. This is not it.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Maybe those 18,500 collectivists out of work will think twice the next time they have a job and start making outrageous demands.
    Nah. they'll just collect their Govvie Bennies and continue blaming others.

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