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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zalatix View Post
    Really?



    What is your counter argument? Or is this where you just nod like all Plutocrat sycophants do and say "my counter argument is top secret, you gotta be in the club to know"?
    Do you even know what you claimed?

    Let me help you out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zalatix View Post
    Unions are trying to get better wages for workers. You do realize, of course, that workers have become 300% as productive as they were in 1947, but have only received about a 100% wage increase since then? Workers are giving Corporations far more than they're getting in return.
    Because the above (a four year period ) doesn't support it at all.


    And obviously the worker was getting paid too much. $20 dollars and hour to make ****ing Twinkies. That is too much.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And this is why unions exist. So that those who have money and power cannot exercise that power over everyone else with impunity.
    Unions drive companies into the ground. Let's take Hostess, for example....

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Because the above (a four year period ) doesn't support it at all.
    Kinda misses the mark on the percentages a bit also...
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And obviously the worker was getting paid too much.

    We can't pay them what they're actually worth until the minimum wage law is repealed.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Speaking of potential buyers, I half seriously suggested that Hostess could have stayed in business by moving production to Mexico. I may have been more precient that I thought:

    Next Twinkie Maker: Will A Mexican Billionaire Family Buy Hostess' Orphaned Brands? - Forbes

    This will of course completely cut the union out. Those 18,000 jobs, mostly non-union, are dead and gone as far as US workers are concerned. All that's left for union supporters to do is point fingers.

    And this leaves the senior managment without jobs, too. I don't know how much more sincere they can get about it.
    Yet these same people who want to "tax the rich" , or blame management when things go wrong, will be complaining the loudest while American companies go elsewhere to do their business.This should not shock anyone. That's been the trend and it's going to continue that way until some basic lessons are learned.

    They are all killing that Golden Goose that made America great.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    bite your tounge. the end of the Twinkie is surely a sign of impending doom.
    But one that has been before prophesied of...


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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It makes a huge difference. If they'd been better managed 5 years ago, they'd still be in business.
    Yeah, if they moved their business to Mexico they would be. How stupid were they?
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    simple enough. Put under stress, management has found ways to increase productivity as much as possible, which allows them to keep on as many employees as possible.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    What difference does it make? The company could have continued if the union cooperated. The company had new management. But the union people dug their heels in. Ipso facto dead company.

    The company could have continued had management done their job in the first place.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    simple enough. Put under stress, management has found ways to increase productivity as much as possible, which allows them to keep on as many employees as possible.
    The white collar wet dream. Management is absolved of all wrongs.

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