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Well, ten other unions did. One didn't.
The article you posted doesn't mention ten other unions. So can you list these ten other unions?
Well, ten other unions did. One didn't.
The article you posted doesn't mention ten other unions. So can you list these ten other unions?
The company spent the summer and fall negotiating with all of the 12 unions trying to find a common path to reorganization, and did gain certain agreements with the Teamsters and many of the other unions, though not the bakers’ union. At the same time, the company started putting together a liquidation plan.
From the link:
Okay fair enough but what 12 unions? I want to know what 12 they are.
I have no idea. Look it up yourself.
I have and it looks the reporter for the sake of impact is counting locals of the same union as individual unions. It is very dishonest to do that on the reporters part.
Oh and BTW you made the post about ten unions you should be able to support it.
Not to get off topic but New Coke actually was a management and labor shared **** up. A batch was off and management decided to rebrand it as "New Coke" rather than waste product and when consumers hated it the company saved face by reissuing "Coke Classic". It was actually a good and bad move in the same decision.What product was that?
I remember New Coke BTW
Hey, Winston. I did support it. That's a credible link. If you want to parse it and infer that it means something other than what it says? That's on you, buddy.
Just admit you didn't read the article all the way to the end and be done with it. Or. Prove that link wrong.
Not to get off topic but New Coke actually was a management and labor shared **** up. A batch was off and management decided to rebrand it as "New Coke" rather than waste product and when consumers hated it the company saved face by reissuing "Coke Classic". It was actually a good and bad move in the same decision.
I did read the article and no where in the article are the 12 unions listed. Now what are the 12 unions the reporter were referring unless they were locals of the same union counted individually?
It is bad reportage and very misleading.
It's absolutely true my man. The official story is that Coca-Cola wanted to go in a new formula direction, I was listening to something years back when one of the former executives flat out admitted it was a company wide ****up starting at the production end and later being fumbled by marketing.A production f up caused a multi million dollar ad campaign...yeah right
I'm done here, Winston. You've obviously Googled nowhere else for the information. It's repeated by both the Chicago Tribune and USA Today and who knows how many others. Don't be blamin' me if credible links are incorrect -- which we have no reason to believe, other than WINSTON, that they are.
Twinkies maker Hostess, union head to mediation
Hostess mediation: Judge delays hearing to allow Hostess, unions to work out issues - chicagotribune.com
Yes and no, Coke never released the raw numbers but issued percentages. There's no way of knowing what the methodology was and the sample, but reports from HQ had 1,000 plus complaint calls a day registered.Actually, in consumer taste tests, people liked new coke better than original.
Not to get off topic but New Coke actually was a management and labor shared **** up. A batch was off and management decided to rebrand it as "New Coke" rather than waste product and when consumers hated it the company saved face by reissuing "Coke Classic". It was actually a good and bad move in the same decision.
The offer to the BCTGM included wage, benefit and work rule concessions but also gave Hostess Brands’ 12 unions a 25 percent ownership stake in the company, representation on its Board of Directors and $100 million in reorganized Hostess Brands’ debt.
Yeah, "New Coke" was the among the most brilliant mistakes in corporate history. Hostess on the other hand will probably come back outsourced, if at all.At the time 'New" Coke came out Pepsi was drawing up even. The New Coke versus Classic Coke controversy was a well designed, and brilliant, piece of publicity and Pepsi never recovered.
I'd be very surprised if the same thing was at work here.
Yeah, "New Coke" was the among the most brilliant mistakes in corporate history. Hostess on the other hand will probably come back outsourced, if at all.
Either temp labor, or they will relocate to a right to work state that would be more than happy to have the jobs lost by the union workers. The old contract is dead, so there is nothing holding the Hostess name responsible for anything.......I suspect they can freeze the pension contributions as well, the union ****ed themselves.Naw, there are companies in the US that do nothing but buy name brands then continue selling their products.
Besides, you usually cant outsource whole food products.
What will happen is one of these venture capitalists who do nothing but buy brands will buy the "Hostess" brand name and will continue to make the cakes, bread etc.... In short Hostess will be selling their business.
The buyers of the brand will probably (I assume) use temp labor (temp agencies) to make their products...
Naw, there are companies in the US that do nothing but buy name brands then continue selling their products.
Besides, you usually cant outsource whole food products.
What will happen is one of these venture capitalists who do nothing but buy brands will buy the "Hostess" brand name and will continue to make the cakes, bread etc.... In short Hostess will be selling their business.
The buyers of the brand will probably (I assume) use temp labor (temp agencies) to make their products...
Either temp labor, or they will relocate to a right to work state that would be more than happy to have the jobs lost by the union workers. The old contract is dead, so there is nothing holding the Hostess name responsible for anything.......I suspect they can freeze the pension contributions as well, the union ****ed themselves.
Either temp labor, or they will relocate to a right to work state that would be more than happy to have the jobs lost by the union workers. The old contract is dead, so there is nothing holding the Hostess name responsible for anything.......I suspect they can freeze the pension contributions as well, the union ****ed themselves.
That's one I don't get, Texas is a right to work state iirc. The only thing I can figure is that they wanted to shorten distribution routes and traded that off against labor costs. However liquidation and the desired union contract could change that for any company that buys the brand.They are already based out of Irving Texas. For some reason they don't have any bakeries here though.
talks fell through today-bankruptcy court will conduct a hearing tomorrow-liquidiation is imminent but the brand name and item names probably will be sold (ie Twinkies, HO HOs etc)