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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    IMHO HHostess should have adapted to the changing environment. I mean Wonder Bread really seriously. Who eats that stuff anymore?
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    Consider the OTHER bread brands baked by Hostess;Nature’s Pride, Merita, Home Pride, Butternut, and Beefsteak®
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

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    IMHO HHostess should have adapted to the changing environment. I mean Wonder Bread really seriously. Who eats that stuff anymore?
    When was the last time you saw a Wonder Bread commercial? In the early days of television they were and hourly event. Same with all their products.

    You know, all of their stuff has been knocked off. Nevermind that the knock offs taste like old garbage, they're cheaper. They failed to advertise and failed to keep control of their brands.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

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    When was the last time you saw a Wonder Bread commercial? In the early days of television they were and hourly event. Same with all their products.

    You know, all of their stuff has been knocked off. Nevermind that the knock offs taste like old garbage, they're cheaper. They failed to advertise and failed to keep control of their brands.
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Don't worry. For most products China will pick up the slack. It increasingly is the source of processed American food.

    I'm sure it will be extremely difficult, but I'm fairly confident China can find people somewhere to work for $18 an hour.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    When was the last time you saw a Wonder Bread commercial? In the early days of television they were and hourly event. Same with all their products.

    You know, all of their stuff has been knocked off. Nevermind that the knock offs taste like old garbage, they're cheaper. They failed to advertise and failed to keep control of their brands.
    Locally, Dallas, we also had Rainbow Bread. It was a knock off of Wonder Bread. My dad use to do the animations for the commercials.

    But what I think is that Hostess and Rainbow failed to keep up with the time product wise more so than marketing wise.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Don't worry. For most products China will pick up the slack. It increasingly is the source of processed American food.

    I'm sure it will be extremely difficult, but I'm fairly confident China can find people somewhere to work for $18 an hour.
    Why is it that the people who are proponents of "free market" then start talking about China. That's not a free market, the government artificially holds wages down so that they can get their profit.


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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Locally, Dallas, we also had Rainbow Bread. It was a knock off of Wonder Bread. My dad use to do the animations for the commercials.

    But what I think is that Hostess and Rainbow failed to keep up with the time product wise more so than marketing wise.
    Yeah, that and patent infringement was a lot easier in decades past, allowing their product line to be diluted by knock offs.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Locally, Dallas, we also had Rainbow Bread. It was a knock off of Wonder Bread. My dad use to do the animations for the commercials.

    But what I think is that Hostess and Rainbow failed to keep up with the time product wise more so than marketing wise.
    Perhaps it has more to do with their products being twice as expensive for consumers than competitor products during a period when the consumers are more price conscious. Walmart has their knockoffs of the Hostess snackcakes; Little Debbie has some comparable cakes at a cheaper price, etc. They may not have tasted 100% the same, but a two minute sugar and cinnamon fix isn't an upscale experience worthy of an upscale price.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Locally, Dallas, we also had Rainbow Bread. It was a knock off of Wonder Bread. My dad use to do the animations for the commercials.
    Here's an interesting aside: my aunt's first husband designed the Wonder Bread wrapper and also the wrapper for lifesavers. That was back in the day when artists actually got a very small percentage of sales in compensation for their work. The Wonder Bread wrapper has never changed in all those years (nor has the original lifesavers wrapper), and that graphic artist made a not-so-small fortune from those two labels. Not sure exactly how much, but I believe it's in the tens of millions of dollars.
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