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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zalatix View Post
    And how do you propose that they "make the union workers feel like the selfish, irrational little assholes they are"? Felony harassment? Violence? What's the game plan here?
    Are you saying that NON-union employees utilizing UNION protesting tactics would be unacceptable?
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Can we get a government bailout for a snack cake?
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I just can't believe it.

    I'm thinking it's not over yet. Perhaps the company is counting on the bankruptcy judge imposing that contract on the workers....? I don't know if they can do that, but from this link is appears they can actually throw it out:



    Bankruptcy judge throws out AMR pilots' contract - Yahoo! Finance

    Only about 7,000 of Hostess Brands' 18,000 employees are union. I'd imagine the other 11,000 are pissed as hell.

    If the union doesn't have something up its sleeve here, I think they're the worst union on planet earth. If they think they sent a message to other employers with their putting this company out of business, I'm thinking it's the other way round -- this sent a message to other employees at other companies that their union is screwing with their livelihood.
    The bankruptcy judge can throw out contracts. I have seen some tangent references in some of the articles that suggested to me that the Court had already modified the contract as part of the reorganization. It is not clear to me why the Court would not have ordered the Union back to work if that was the case. I think the management did what they had to do. Since the workers are spread nationally, I doubt the closure will be even a bump in the road economically. It is a shame though. It feels like the Union leaders purposefully drove them into liquidation out of spite, screwing everybody in the process.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    "You're selfish assholes who cost the rest of us our jobs."

    Should suffice right nicely.
    If I read the news reports correctly there won't be any company that the union can bargain with. It is to be completely liquidated. I would bet that even now the union leadership is telling it's member that this is all a ploy on the part of the company leadership.

    No doubt the union activists from national labor organizations that advised the union during this process (these guys are ring tailed radicals) have packed up their bags and left town having completely destroyed both company and union. I'd bet that the NLRB board egged them on as well.

    Emerging from bankruptcy is only possible if the company has the assets to go through that process. Apparently Hostess does not and can't find any financing for it.

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    on channel 19 news in cincinnati, they are interviewing a Union steward who is whining about the Queensgate factory being liquidated. Hope and Change bitchslaps people who I bet voted for Obama. Sucks to lose your job right before the holidays.

    damn, given all the Ho Hos I have bought I cannot believe the place is losing money!!

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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    If I read the news reports correctly there won't be any company that the union can bargain with. It is to be completely liquidated. I would bet that even now the union leadership is telling it's member that this is all a ploy on the part of the company leadership.

    No doubt the union activists from national labor organizations that advised the union during this process (these guys are ring tailed radicals) have packed up their bags and left town having completely destroyed both company and union. I'd bet that the NLRB board egged them on as well.

    Emerging from bankruptcy is only possible if the company has the assets to go through that process. Apparently Hostess does not and can't find any financing for it.
    Unfortunately, I feel you might be right. Do you think the 18,500 employees would have done this if they knew they were going to end up in the unemployment line. The union did not help them here. So sad.
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    on channel 19 news in cincinnati, they are interviewing a Union steward who is whining about the Queensgate factory being liquidated. Hope and Change bitchslaps people who I bet voted for Obama. Sucks to lose your job right before the holidays.

    damn, given all the Ho Hos I have bought I cannot believe the place is losing money!!
    Maybe they should start selling door to door like girl scouts...raise the money, buy the company and brand, then they can do whatever they want.
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    If I read the news reports correctly there won't be any company that the union can bargain with. It is to be completely liquidated. I would bet that even now the union leadership is telling it's member that this is all a ploy on the part of the company leadership.

    No doubt the union activists from national labor organizations that advised the union during this process (these guys are ring tailed radicals) have packed up their bags and left town having completely destroyed both company and union. I'd bet that the NLRB board egged them on as well.

    Emerging from bankruptcy is only possible if the company has the assets to go through that process. Apparently Hostess does not and can't find any financing for it.
    They actually did have emergency financing, from a hedge fund that was already one of their creditors.
    It's just that large work stoppages like this dry up revenue, rather quickly.
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zalatix View Post
    And how do you propose that they "make the union workers feel like the selfish, irrational little assholes they are"? Felony harassment? Violence? What's the game plan here?
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    re: Hostess threatens to lay off 18,000 employees unless strike ends[W:521]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    on channel 19 news in cincinnati, they are interviewing a Union steward who is whining about the Queensgate factory being liquidated. Hope and Change bitchslaps people who I bet voted for Obama. Sucks to lose your job right before the holidays.

    damn, given all the Ho Hos I have bought I cannot believe the place is losing money!!
    LOL now you can give that money to a gym to burn them HoHo's off you so you can see your HoHo again

    IIRC from the stories when they filed for reorganization, they were weighted down with old debt from bad decisions years ago but otherwise would be profitable. Back then they were saying that there is a ton of value in the brand so a liquidation would not necessarily short the consumers out of anything in the long run.

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