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    Re: Census: U.S. Poverty Rate Spikes, Nearly 50 Million Americans Affected

    Ah, the infamous "gap between the rich and the poor," as though that in and of itself is meaningful, much less the debate-ender some seem to think it is.
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    Re: Census: U.S. Poverty Rate Spikes, Nearly 50 Million Americans Affected

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    Re: Census: U.S. Poverty Rate Spikes, Nearly 50 Million Americans Affected

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    Poverty Data - Historical Poverty Tables: People - U.S Census Bureau
    Aveage since 1970 is 13.1%. with a standard deviation of 1.2%.
    Highest 5 years:
    2011........ 15.0
    1982........ 15.0
    2010........ 15.1
    1993........ 15.1
    1983........ 15.2
    Lowest 5 year:
    1973........ 11.1
    1974......... 11.2
    2000......... 11.3
    1978........ 11.4
    1977........ 11.6
    Middle 5 years:
    1989........ 12.8
    1988........ 13.0
    1980........ 13.0
    2008........ 13.2
    1997........ 13.3

    Looks to me like the poverty rate has remained pretty steady, fluctuting within a narroe range depending on the economy.


    As the federal governmeent defines it. if your defintion differers, then there's the issue.


    Not according to the historical poverty rates.


    1970 - 2011... what change is that?

    Further, and again:
    You, attribute the --current-- spike in poverty to tax cuts and the resulting cuts in programs to help the poor help themselves.
    So, for your argument to stick, you have to specify which of said programs were cut, and were cut because of the tax cuts.
    If your numbers were all they were to it, then should happy as all get out. But you know as well as I such is not the case. What we're talking about is the gap between wealth and poverty. I pointed you to other thread. I'd link it here but I haven't quite master the iPad yet. Still, read closer what I'm saying and visit that other thread.

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    Re: Census: U.S. Poverty Rate Spikes, Nearly 50 Million Americans Affected

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Ah, the infamous "gap between the rich and the poor," as though that in and of itself is meaningful, much less the debate-ender some seem to think it is.
    It actually is, and why there is some 47% not paying income taxes.

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    Re: Census: U.S. Poverty Rate Spikes, Nearly 50 Million Americans Affected

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It actually is, and why there is some 47% not paying income taxes.
    No, it's not. "Income gap" means nothing by itself.

    (Nor does it require that anyone not pay taxes.)
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    Re: Census: U.S. Poverty Rate Spikes, Nearly 50 Million Americans Affected

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, it's not. "Income gap" means nothing by itself.

    (Nor does it require that anyone not pay taxes.)
    You use of the phrase "in and of itself" is a curious one. I suspect you seeking a way to avoid the point. The gap is a problem. I've stated but one way how. Any response?

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    Re: Census: U.S. Poverty Rate Spikes, Nearly 50 Million Americans Affected

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You use of the phrase "in and of itself" is a curious one. I suspect you seeking a way to avoid the point. The gap is a problem. I've stated but one way how. Any response?
    No, it's not a way to avoid anything. It's pointing out that merely saying "there's an income gap!" doesn't actually say anything.

    Your "one way how" is what you said about taxes? That's not a problem with an income gap. It's a problem with a stupid tax structure, a structure which is no way required by the income gap.
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    Re: Census: U.S. Poverty Rate Spikes, Nearly 50 Million Americans Affected

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, it's not a way to avoid anything. It's pointing out that merely saying "there's an income gap!" doesn't actually say anything.

    Your "one way how" is what you said about taxes? That's not a problem with an income gap. It's a problem with a stupid tax structure, a structure which is no way required by the income gap.
    No. When we had less of a gap, more we making enough to pay taxes. The base was larger.

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    Re: Census: U.S. Poverty Rate Spikes, Nearly 50 Million Americans Affected

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. When we had less of a gap, more we making enough to pay taxes. The base was larger.
    That is no response to what I said.
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