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Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours...[W:287/521]

Be sure and send 100,000,000 quarters. Per year.

Find me one Papa John's customer who would protest paying an extra quarter knowing that it meant the delivery guy and the guys at the shop cooking would have health insurance.
 
Find me one Papa John's customer who would protest paying an extra quarter knowing that it meant the delivery guy and the guys at the shop cooking would have health insurance.

It goes deeper than that and you know it.
 
Find me one Papa John's customer who would protest paying an extra quarter knowing that it meant the delivery guy and the guys at the shop cooking would have health insurance.
I don't mind paying if it's voluntary, it isn't. I have a major problem with paying for more government, especially a turd of a bill like Obamacare.
 
I don't mind paying if it's voluntary, it isn't. I have a major problem with paying for more government, especially a turd of a bill like Obamacare.

Seriously, instead of making a big deal about it, why not just raise the prices on all of their products by a quarter? Don't say what it's for, just do it. Both sides are using Obamacare as a hammer to whack people over the head with.
 
Seriously, instead of making a big deal about it, why not just raise the prices on all of their products by a quarter? Don't say what it's for, just do it. Both sides are using Obamacare as a hammer to whack people over the head with.
It's a horrid bill, and we are just starting to see the initial fallout. I'm tired of people excusing it, whining about people not liking it, and blaming the market for reacting to it.
 
In zee teeth. No free lunch boxes.

Parasite Nation comes with costs... fewer jobs... hidden taxes... everywhere.

But it's freeeeeeeeeee! Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Wrong numb nuts. It's Aints free.


And your post is simply not remotely close to being true.

The OP has redefined disingenuous.
 
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I've got him on ignore for a reason. "Five year high" dollar doesn't mean **** compared to the last hundred years value of the dollar, of course, anyone who is looking objectively at the economy and not trying to spin bad political decisions of leadership would understand that. We have a ton of junk policy over decades from two parties and the bill is coming due, some companies are just being honest about what the worst policy in recent U.S. history is doing to the bottom line.

He has me on ignore because he got tired of having his arguments smacked back in his face. :lol:

Historically, versus the pound sterling, the dollar is worth more now than at any time going back to at least 1840.

Tables of historical exchange rates to the United States dollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Please don't quote this -- the man's fragile ego can't take it.
 
It's a horrid bill, and we are just starting to see the initial fallout. I'm tired of people excusing it, whining about people not liking it, and blaming the market for reacting to it.

The market? You mean a few whack jobs screaming sour grapes because their guy lost?
 
The market? You mean a few whack jobs screaming sour grapes because their guy lost?
I mean the market where dollars are dropping in buying power, portions are getting shimmed down, chip bags have more air, and prices go up due to government interference. That market. Other than that, why don't you go ahead and give us your analysis?
 
Seriously, instead of making a big deal about it, why not just raise the prices on all of their products by a quarter? Don't say what it's for, just do it. Both sides are using Obamacare as a hammer to whack people over the head with.
Ya know, I think this is what it really comes down to. Hardly anybody would notice a quarter price increase. Or, if they did notice, they wouldn't mind enough to stop buying the product. Just raise the price, don't say anything, and everybody assumes it's inflation and standard life operating procedure.

Having said that, the guy is clearing using this to make a political point, but I think he's making himself look foolish by doing so. If Obamacare caused prices to increase by $3 he'd have a legitimate point, but 25c isn't enough to get all worked up about.

Plus, if he's passing it on, is it really costing him anything?

Plus, if he's paying it, so are his competitors, so where is he losing any market competitive advantage?
 
Ya know, I think this is what it really comes down to. Hardly anybody would notice a quarter price increase. Or, if they did notice, they wouldn't mind enough to stop buying the product. Just raise the price, don't say anything, and everybody assumes it's inflation and standard life operating procedure.

Having said that, the guy is clearing using this to make a political point, but I think he's making himself look foolish by doing so. If Obamacare caused prices to increase by $3 he'd have a legitimate point, but 25c isn't enough to get all worked up about.

Plus, if he's passing it on, is it really costing him anything?

Plus, if he's paying it, so are his competitors, so where is he losing any market competitive advantage?

Where did this 25 cent figure come from? I don't think Schnatter even makes that claim. I believe he said it would raise the cost of a pie 10-15 cents, and others have said it would probably be closer to a nickel.

Schnatter is giving away 2 million pizzas this year for an NFL promotion. That's going to cost the company roughly five times the annual cost of ACA.
 
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And your definition was limited and took you a few steps in the debate. Sadly for you, your own definitions clearly indicate there are differences between a VENTURE capitalist and a VULTURE capitalist. Your own definitions prove you wrong. Your own self selected cherry picked definitions show that you do not have a leg to stand upon.

You lost right there with your own posts.

But in the effort to teach and instruct you as to your error I went much further in building a solid case against your limited efforts.


It was then met and surpassed by other definitions.

It was then surpassed by video of prominent Republicans using and explaining the term.

It was then surpassed by prize winning economists explaining the terms and issue here.

And all you have is a never ending loop of the same thirty seconds of self justification and attack.
Still dancing and trying to cover for your dishonesty I see. What a shame
The information provided showed you to be wrong.
You said that it didn't mean Venture Capitalist when it clearly does. You were wrong!
And clearly you knew that and said it anyways.

You, and only you, were the one who was wrong.
And as you are apparently confused again as is typical, I never made the claim that it did not mean additional things.
So no, you are wrong again, and now are misrepresenting the position I took.

All in an attempt to cover for your dishonesty.
So typical of partisan hackery.
 
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Find me one Papa John's customer who would protest paying an extra quarter knowing that it meant the delivery guy and the guys at the shop cooking would have health insurance.
j-mac's and LaMidRighter's replies show how ridiculous your statement is.
Secondly; I would oppose it.
Now what?
 
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The information provided showed you top be wrong.

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Moderator's Warning:
Some of you need to seriously tone it down. No more personal comments, stick to the topic.

None of the content of your post is on topic.
All of your post is simply another in a series of personal attacks on me.
 
j-mac's and LaMidRighter's replies show how ridiculous your statement is.
Secondly; I would oppose it.
Now what?
I get it, if I were in his position I'd raise prices, cut hours, release employees, and let everyone know at every phase exactly why. I wouldn't complain to the company about the increase but rather the root cause, and that is the idiots who signed that POS bill into law, the idiot "conservative" SCOTUS justice who interpreted the tax powers incorrectly to uphold the POS, and the people who voted again for the idiot who signed the bill into law. I don't scream at symptoms.
 
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post 287 WARNING



None of the content of your post is on topic.
All of your post is simply another in a series of personal attacks on me.
iLOL
Your post, to which I replied, came after that. :doh
That's like hypocrisy isn't it? lol


In addition; And?
Correcting the information that you provided in this topic, is within the framework of staying on topic, and is not an attack.
That should be sufficient, just as this post pointing out to you that I was within the framework of staying on topic should qualify.
But if it doesn't, let me add that what the Denny's owner is doing is his prerogative and isn't wrong at all.
 
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Where did this 25 cent figure come from? I don't think Schnatter even makes that claim. I believe he said it would raise the cost of a pie 10-15 cents, and others have said it would probably be closer to a nickel.

Schnatter is giving away 2 million pizzas this year for an NFL promotion. That's going to cost the company roughly five times the annual cost of ACA.

Someone earlier in the thread said they'd give a quarter to give employees top of the line insurance, which just stuck. Whatever the cost, they should just increase the pizza cost and be done with it.
 
In zee teeth. No free lunch boxes.

Parasite Nation comes with costs... fewer jobs... hidden taxes... everywhere.

But it's freeeeeeeeeee! Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Wrong numb nuts. It's Aints free.

This is just the tip of the Iceberg.........Stand by for 15% interest rates...
 
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iLOL
Your post, to which I replied, came after that. :doh

Attacking me personally for the content of a post which came after a warning still is very much a violation of the warning itself. Again -

post 287 WARNING

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Some of you need to seriously tone it down. No more personal comments, stick to the topic.
 
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Moderator's Warning:
haymarket and excon - knock it off or you will be removed from the conversation.
 
It's a horrid bill, and we are just starting to see the initial fallout. I'm tired of people excusing it, whining about people not liking it, and blaming the market for reacting to it.

Yes, this terrifying initial fallout of paying 14 cents more for a crappy pizza. What's next, $120 more for a new F-150? Oh, wait, those guys have a decent union so they already have health insurance.

What fallout? Health insurance premiums increasing.... less than they had been increasing already? Oh, you mean a handful of right-wing CEOs throwing a hissy fit because their guy didn't win.
 
Yes, this terrifying initial fallout of paying 14 cents more for a crappy pizza. What's next, $120 more for a new F-150? Oh, wait, those guys have a decent union so they already have health insurance.

What fallout? Health insurance premiums increasing.... less than they had been increasing already? Oh, you mean a handful of right-wing CEOs throwing a hissy fit because their guy didn't win.
Insurance premiums are going up, employee plans are going up to the companies, this is only the beginning. If it makes you feel better that it's only 14 cents increase for one item(that is visible, not counting other cost increases) before the entire turd has started to smell then I don't know what to tell you Deuce. The bill isn't even fully implemented until 2016 and it is constantly able to be changed without congressional input through the NHS, these are initial increases. So, .14$ for a pizza, 120$ for a Ford, .30$ for a gallon of gas, it adds up.
 
Insurance premiums are going up, employee plans are going up to the companies, this is only the beginning. If it makes you feel better that it's only 14 cents increase for one item(that is visible, not counting other cost increases) before the entire turd has started to smell then I don't know what to tell you Deuce. The bill isn't even fully implemented until 2016 and it is constantly able to be changed without congressional input through the NHS, these are initial increases. So, .14$ for a pizza, 120$ for a Ford, .30$ for a gallon of gas, it adds up.

The supposed 14 cent increase (actually closer to 5 cents) is in reponse to a section of the law that won't even go into effect until 2014. Schnatter is making a political statement -- not an economic statement.
 
Oh my.

Read in Wal l Street Journal.......(as I remember)

Dennys CEO pissed off, had "personal conversaion" with big mouth.....big mouth recants statements.
CEO says there are sections of Franchise agreements to get loses from big mouth.

Business down 70% at a few Dennys owned by another unrelated FL Franchisee. Phone ringing off hook with pissed off people.
Big mouth a dead man to all his fellow Dennys owners.............Payback is a bitch.......

I also watched a speech by Corp labor lawyer, says Employers that cut hours can get class action suit via section "510" of ERISA.
More reading on my part to follow........

VIV la AMERICA and the ACA!

That or its GILLOTINE time! ;-)
 
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