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AdamT said:
It's really astonishing when you think about it. If our per capita health care costs were just in line with the average of other advanced countries it would free up over 8% of GDP for more productive pursuits. That's an amount of money totaling more than 50% of all federal tax revenue.
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And we'd all have access to health care, and there wouldn't be medical bankruptcies any more. It's really a no brainer.

Consider: Federal spending is about 21% of the GDP, while medical costs are about 17%, but...

7% goes to Medicare and 2% to Medicaid, both part of the 21% federal spending. Take that out, and you have 12% being spent by the federal government, while 17% is spent on health care. Health care costs more than the entire federal bureaucracy!
 
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clownboy said:
Without venture capitalists you wouldn't have that machine you're typing on. Nor would you have the energy to power it.
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Who is talking about venture capitalists? I mentioned vulture capitalists. There is a difference.

I still would very much like to know about this Parasite Nation and who is in it. Is that the name for Jimmy Buffet fans?
 
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Henrin said:
We are in this current mess because the government created it over the last 100 years and like always it makes no sense to cover people that are nothing but a net lose.
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Special interests REALLY need to start picking better people for us to vote for.
 
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AdamT said:
Good point. Canadians rate their health care system more highly than Americans rate theirs. And of course they have universal coverage and they spend half what we do per capita.
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They just deny grannies, and wait 8 months for hip replacements.........Oh, and they dont pay for breast cancer drugs that are most expensive and most effective. And they also DO NOT cover contraception......oooops.
 
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AdamT said:
It's really astonishing when you think about it. If our per capita health care costs were just in line with the average of other advanced countries it would free up over 8% of GDP for more productive pursuits. That's an amount of money totaling more than 50% of all federal tax revenue.
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If you can magically make fat Americans not fat.....then we could lower our costs too son.....

Ever heard that saying, "****t in one hand, wish in the other, and see which one fills up first"?????

That's you Adam. Just like all other liberals. You compare America, to other countries, as if our populations were cloned and exactly the same. Living in a dream world....where liberals were born.
 
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haymarket said:
Like Mitt Romney and vulture capitalists?
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What is a "vulture capitalist"? Did you mean to type "venture capitalist"?
 
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So...no one realy knows, ore even has much of a clue as to the real time costs "Obama care" is going to impose...so all of these instances are likely little more than knee jerk...emphasis on JERK...reactions by politically minded business owners, just to make a point. I wonder who's mouth is going to end up eating all these feet?
 
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Federalist said:
What is a "vulture capitalist"? Did you mean to type "venture capitalist"?
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perhaps this will help from the Wikipedia entry on the topic?

Vulture capitalist
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A vulture capitalist is an investor who used the clauses of the terms of an investment deal in a company to seize ownership of the company or valuable parts of it outright.[1][2] Whereas a venture capitalist invests in a company likely to succeed in the marketplace and hence show a profit to the investor, a vulture capitalist looks to invest in a firm likely to fail to show a profit in the near term, triggering the takeover clauses, resulting in forfeiture of some or all the assets of the company, with an eye towards selling off the constituent parts, hence showing a profit while destroying or hobbling the company.[1][2]
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haymarket said:
perhaps this will help from the Wikipedia entry on the topic?
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The first time I heard the expression was when Rick Santorum applied it to Mitt Romney during the primaries.
 
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haymarket said:
perhaps this will help from the Wikipedia entry on the topic?
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Now that you've explained yourself, I would not agree that such an investor is a parasite. Generally I don't regard investing one's money in companies, however unhealthy, to be parasitic.
 
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Federalist said:
Now that you've explained yourself, I would not agree that such an investor is a parasite. Generally I don't regard investing one's money in companies, however unhealthy, to be parasitic.
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Which is your right. Thankfully others do not see it that way and they have been exposed for the enemy of the people that they are.

So now can you tell us who Parasite Nation actually is and who comprises it?
 
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haymarket said:
Which is your right. Thankfully others do not see it that way and they have been exposed for the enemy of the people that they are.
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An investor buys a company from people who voluntarily sell him it to him. An investor doesn't take anything from anyone that he has not purchased.

So now can you tell us who Parasite Nation actually is and who comprises it?
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I imagine that zimmer was referring to those who take more from the government than they contribute. At least that's how I've heard the term used before.
 
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haymarket said:
Which is your right. Thankfully others do not see it that way and they have been exposed for the enemy of the people that they are.
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Can you tell us why you think it is parasitic?
 
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Federalist said:
I imagine that zimmer was referring to those who take more from the government than they contribute. At least that's how I've heard the term used before.
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And how is that measured exactly? Over what period of time? What is the formula?
 
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Henrin said:
Can you tell us why you think it is parasitic?
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I supplied a definition which provides that answer for you. I also provided the testimonials of many prominent conservative leaders who gave you their reasons.

Start with both of those sources - the later of which is actually many different sources.
 
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haymarket said:
And how is that measured exactly? Over what period of time? What is the formula?
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I have no idea. There are hundreds if not thousands of variables, which would be different for every single individual.

One would have to add up every service received by the government (R) and then one would have to add up all the taxes paid to the government (T). If one could determine R and T, a person whose R > T would be a parasite, while a person with an R < T would be a host.

I think it would be difficult if not impossible to quantify.
 
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AdamT said:
It's really astonishing when you think about it. If our per capita health care costs were just in line with the average of other advanced countries it would free up over 8% of GDP for more productive pursuits. That's an amount of money totaling more than 50% of all federal tax revenue.
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ObamaCare is NOTHING like the Canadian system.
 
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joko104 said:
ObamaCare is NOTHING like the Canadian system.
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That's true.
 
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haymarket said:
I supplied a definition which provides that answer for you. I also provided the testimonials of many prominent conservative leaders who gave you their reasons.

Start with both of those sources - the later of which is actually many different sources.
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Which post is the testimonials in?

As for the definition, that doesn't describe a parasitic activity.
 
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Federalist said:
I have no idea. There are hundreds if not thousands of variables, which would be different for every single individual.

One would have to add up every service received by the government (R) and then one would have to add up all the taxes paid to the government (T). If one could determine R and T, a person whose R > T would be a parasite, while a person with an R < T would be a host.

I think it would be difficult if not impossible to quantify.
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I agree.

So lets us flush what is useless and not speak of such inanity again.
 
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Henrin said:
Which post is the testimonials in?

As for the definition, that doesn't describe a parasitic activity.
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post 135.

The definition is clear. it is the difference between helping to build a company and helping to destroy and dismantle a company.
 
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haymarket said:
post 135.

The definition is clear. it is the difference between helping to build a company and helping to destroy and dismantle a company.
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Post 135?

How are they describing a parasitic activity?
 
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Henrin said:
Post 135?

How are they describing a parasitic activity?
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Did you listen to it? Person after person who believes whole heartedly in American capitalism and conservatism finds fault with the predatory business practices that are part and parcel of Romney.

If it is not clear to you - then you will NEVER see it because you chose not to understand.
 
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haymarket said:
Did you listen to it? Person after person who believes whole heartedly in American capitalism and conservatism finds fault with the predatory business practices that are part and parcel of Romney.

If it is not clear to you - then you will NEVER see it because you chose not to understand.
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Why are you using the words predatory and parasitic interchangeably? You do realize they are drastically different things, right?
 
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