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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Of course you dont...because as long as someone else is paying for it and you can be the recipient of the goodies from that 16 trillion dollar (and climbing) debt, you cant see any possible problem with doubling down. As long as you arent responsible for it it isnt 'real' money. Sort of like the health care problem in general...as long as SOMEONE ELSE (not the individual) is stuck with the problem then the solution is aces.

    Greece and Spain amongst others might be able to enlighten you on the downside of irresponsibly spending yourself into oblivion.
    That someone else is the US government, so this isn't a problem. The fact that you compare Greece and Spain to the US just plainly shows you have no idea what you're talking about.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That is an arbitrary number and in no way contradicts the FACT that unemployment has been falling steadily for three years. And of course U6 unemployment has been falling right along with U3, so the claim that "real" unemployment isn't falling is also bull****.
    Falling yes, but barely fast enough to keep up with population growth.

    That isn't booming job growth, it's sustaining the level of misery.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What is there to admit? It couldn't possibly be any clearer that single payer is the way to go. There are more than 30 countries that have single payer and every single one of them achieves much lower costs for similar results. Duh.
    Where does the money for that single payer system come from? Does the government have some magic "Money Tree" that it simply plucks the bills off of to pay for that system? NO, they don't. The money comes from US, the tax paying citizens and businesses in the United States. Therefore, we end up paying for it one way or another. UNLESS we're part of the group in this nation that doesn't really pay taxes because they get it all back at the end of the year, if they even put anything in to begin with.

    Honestly, the further and further I look into the policies of the Left I almost wonder if it wouldn't be benificial for me to quit my job and simply live off everyone else. It really seems more and more like that is what the Democrat/Left is rewarding with their policies.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    That someone else is the US government, so this isn't a problem. The fact that you compare Greece and Spain to the US just plainly shows you have no idea what you're talking about.
    That US Government isnt a magic entity with little gnomes sitting under bridges spinning straw into gold. The US Government doesnt generate profit magically...it taxes its citizens to pay for goods and services. The fact that you refuse to look at and learn from governments failing because they spent themselves into oblivion speaks volumes as to why we have the government we have and the direction we are headed.

    Comical that you fail to see an ever increasing debt as a bad thing. Well...tragic too...but still...comical.

    Weeeee! Someone ELSE is going to pay for my 'free ****'!

    No wonder this country is ****ed.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Reality is that unemployment has been falling for three years. I know they don't tell you that on Fox News, but it is a fact.
    It was higher when Obama was reelected than when he was elected.

    8% Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

    It's going up again too.

    Food stamps increased bby 421,000.

    Change you can believe in?
    Yes.
    If you believed it would foment... decay.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What is there to admit? It couldn't possibly be any clearer that single payer is the way to go. There are more than 30 countries that have single payer and every single one of them achieves much lower costs for similar results. Duh.
    Like I said, nothing but a myth. There is no indication that it lowers cost by its introduction. You are being led to a conclusion based on nothing but a comparison between costs of both systems while not actually looking at the systems themselves. Do such nonsense with things that only yourself will be involved in.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    I thought it would be more than that since people now have to be paid to serve on the death panels.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Assuming this is true, business owners ought to do what is necessary to survive drowning in taxation and burgeoning bureaucracy. If the passing of "Obamacare" is so expensive, and the people who voted in favor of it did not foresee the immense strain it would have on businesses, then I see no wrong in business owners doing what they must to, well, survive.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I'm not sure that I'm a fan of either option. Personally, I would prefer we got both companies AND the government completely and totally out of the business of providing health insurance and left it up to the individual citizens. Give me the roughly $6500 that my employer and I collectively pay into the system in premiums every year as part of my weekly paycheck and I'll take care of it myself, thank you very much.
    Not all Americans would have that option, which is why we are in this mess. Further, without Obamacare, people with pre-existing conditions would not be able to buy insurance at any price.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Not exactly. The number of people getting unemployment benefits has been falling for 3 years but the number of under employed and unemployed has continued to increase and is now at an all time high - 23,000,000 which is why 50,000,000 Americans are now living in poverty. So I have a great idea - lets take money from those people who create jobs and reduce our deficit so we can give a few more people unemployment benefits.


    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Reality is that unemployment has been falling for three years. I know they don't tell you that on Fox News, but it is a fact.

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