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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Let's look at that....

    In this system he has to raise prices to cover the premiums he has to pay for his employee's healthcare.

    In a single payer system he has to raise prices to cover the increase in what he has to pay his employees to make up for the additional tax money that's being taken from them to pay for the single-payer system.

    EITHER WAY the price of his product has to go UP to cover the costs.
    So you prefer to keep employers in the business of purchasing their employees healthcare?

    Other countries have an advantage over U.S. companies in that they are not hobbled with that burden.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Ge whiz Wally - maybe there should be NO taxes and NO regulations and NO gubment orders on Denny's of any kind and then they could hire zillions of new employees and everybody would be happy?
    Typical Parasite Nation argument... argue for no taxes when that was never close to suggested. Honest debate is not Parasite Nation's strength.

    Doh Homer... Perhaps taxes should be greatly reduced to stimulate growth, release investment cash, reduce unemployment and increase government revenue vs. what goes out for once?
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Which is why an aspirin costs $20...
    Yep, and prices for all other services are correspondingly inflated as well.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    So you prefer to keep employers in the business of purchasing their employees healthcare?

    Other countries have an advantage over U.S. companies in that they are not hobbled with that burden.
    And just where do you think your beloved government is going to come up with this money?

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Which means he is just another disgruntled rich Republican SOB who is mad his taxes are going up.
    Move along, nothing to see here.
    More like a disgruntled rich Republican SOB who thinks his taxes are going up.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack
    Oh..and for the record...it will NEVER be 'the government providing healthcare'. When (when...because it will happen) we move to Universal Healthcare, everyones taxes are going to go up.
    Or they could just fund it how they fund everything else...

    People might as well shelve their outrage and upset at employers raising costs.
    Employers that pull this kind of crap are doing so for political reasons or because they are assholes, not because Obamacare is increasing costs to force them to do it.

    FWIW I find it outrageous that my health should be tied to being employed and think there should be options outside of employer-sponsored plans that are actually realistic. Then again, I support a single payer system.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I know how the market works, and I know that people not going to their places of business will make them change their tude.
    Do you know why people go to certain places of business?

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Your Star and Greenballs liked you on this post, but it's idiotic.

    Here is why...

    Unemployment is high. These people might look, but you think the other restaurants will take them on in this economy. Doh... Noooooooooooo.

    And... the others are most likely contemplating their own actions... they'll certainly pass on the costs.

    If you know anything about the F&B (Foord & Beverage) business... there is no money in food! Increased costs will be passed on to customers across America.

    People will lose jobs and be put on part-time. That is how the game is played. Government makes dumb rules... people makes ways around them.
    Do you know anything about restaurant work? Apparently not. There is always rapid turnover -- even now. And of course the economy is improving, so it will only get more competitive.

    In any case, there are other elements of ACA that will mitigate the problem. Namely, individuals will be able to buy health insurance much more cheaply through exchanges. This will benefit many of the restaurant workers who are already working part time. Those who wish to work more will get a job at a different restaurant, or perhaps two part time jobs.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    How so?
    The point was that employers are going to pay for the care given. Telling me that you want to get it out of the hands of employers and instead put in the government hands doesn't just change how this works.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And just where do you think your beloved government is going to come up with this money?
    Taxes of course. Nothing is free. It's not free now and is horribly expensive because we all pay for the uninsured. I'd prefer to pay more in taxes and have costs driven down because the uninsured are covered and seek less expensive treatment from a GP when at the first sign of illness.

    This is not a good model for managing the country's healthcare needs:

    "Well, we do provide care for people who don't have insurance," Romney said. "If someone has a heart attack, they don't sit in their apartment and die. We pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital and give them care. And different states have different ways of providing for that care."
    Yes, in Massachusetts, they have Romneycare, that's how they provide for it.

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