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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I'm sorry, I misspoke, I should have said universal healthcare. Get employers out of the position of paying for and managing the healthcare of their employees.
    That makes no difference what so ever.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

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    Ge whiz Wally - maybe there should be NO taxes and NO regulations and NO gubment orders on Denny's of any kind and then they could hire zillions of new employees and everybody would be happy?
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    It will be interesting to see the decisions businesses are going to make this year and how it will affect them in the long run. Eventually all the hype over the ACA will be gone. Just like every law that gets passed.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Its like you guys have no idea how the market works.
    I know how the market works, and I know that people not going to their places of business will make them change their tude.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    If we compared tax rates between now, with Obamacare, and before the Bush tax cuts, when do you think they were higher?

    I'm going to start posting this question in every single thread that comes up with "Owner/company x does y asshole thing because of Obamacare"
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    With individuals having that choice, they can vote with their feet. With single payer, they can't avoid it. It will be baked into everything via taxes on all at all levels.
    Yes, all levels, as if it isn't now?

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Not just customers, but employees. If this jagoff is only giving up 30 hrs./week and Appleby's is offering 40 hrs./week and health insurance, I wonder where the best employees are going to go?

    Let's also not forget that the main provisions of ACA don't even go into effect until 2014, so there is no rational justification for this.
    Your Star and Greenballs liked you on this post, but it's idiotic.

    Here is why...

    Unemployment is high. These people might look, but you think the other restaurants will take them on in this economy. Doh... Noooooooooooo.

    And... the others are most likely contemplating their own actions... they'll certainly pass on the costs.

    If you know anything about the F&B (Foord & Beverage) business... there is no money in food! Increased costs will be passed on to customers across America.

    People will lose jobs and be put on part-time. That is how the game is played. Government makes dumb rules... people makes ways around them.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That makes no difference what so ever.
    How so?

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It's sad that the government providing health-care to everyone is the bad guy, and not the guy putting the extra cost onto the people, and the workers.

    Though this is an argument for a single payer system as well though.
    Its not the government providing health care. It is the government deciding to dump the problem on employers. Can you cite any logical reason or justification for an employer to be held responsible for the health care of employees and their families? And why only employers with 50 or more employees?

    Oh..and for the record...it will NEVER be 'the government providing healthcare'. When (when...because it will happen) we move to Universal Healthcare, everyones taxes are going to go up. People might as well shelve their outrage and upset at employers raising costs. The government actions will mirror the actions of employers that raise costs to pay for the new forced mandates and when it happens, the same people talking **** about employers raising costs to pay for it will applaud the government tax increases to provide more 'free' government services.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Stuff like this is going on EVERYWHERE. We'll be laying off 15 percent of our company on December 1st, and just about everyone I know is making similar adjustments in the next 30-90 days. Likewise, we've called off plans to roll out two new product lines.

    The economy is about to absolutely tank, but at least Obama has World War III brewing in the Middle East right now. There's the source for new jobs.

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