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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal wit

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I mean they come to the US instead of Singapore, or one of the other common destinations for medical tourism, because it is much closer.

    No doubt, the Canadian system needs work, as does ours. The difference is that ours costs far more than theirs does.
    Of course because we provide better care? Again whey does anyone come here for medical treatment, it's because they get treatment now, not 10 months from now. And we have the specialists to provide immediate care now, not 10 months from now. Having access to immediate care would cost more. Now if you want to go to Canada for lower cost and wait 10 months for cancer treatment be my quest.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm not sure why a UHC would break the bank, when nations that have such a system pay far and away less than we do. Maybe it's a choice between bad and worse.

    Perhaps a system like that of Singapore would serve us better:

    The population of Singapore is roughly 5 million. We have more than that in our larger cities. How would you extrapolate that to a country of 350 million?
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal wit

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    Of course because we provide better care? Again whey does anyone come here for medical treatment, it's because they get treatment now, not 10 months from now. And we have the specialists to provide immediate care now, not 10 months from now. Having access to immediate care would cost more. Now if you want to go to Canada for lower cost and wait 10 months for cancer treatment be my quest.
    So, now we know the problems with the US system are cost and access, and the problem with the Canadian system is wait times.

    A better system would be a universal coverage that requires the patient to pay a portion of the costs. Nothing is free, after all, and the patient needs an incentive to cut costs too.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal wit

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, now we know the problems with the US system are cost and access, and the problem with the Canadian system is wait times.

    A better system would be a universal coverage that requires the patient to pay a portion of the costs. Nothing is free, after all, and the patient needs an incentive to cut costs too.

    Costs maybe, 'access'? who? and what does that even mean?
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal wit

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Costs maybe, 'access'? who? and what does that even mean?
    Does that really have to be explained to you? There are people in this country who just don't get treated because they don't have enough money to pay for it. Oh, sure, they can go to the ER for critical care, but by the time cancer sends you to the ER, it's probably too late to save you.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal wit

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Costs maybe, 'access'? who? and what does that even mean?
    Costs definitely and beyond question. We can't afford to keep the system we have. Access to people who don't have coverage. The option of going to the emergency room is not access to health care.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Money doesn't grow on trees, therefore someone, eventually, will have to pay for it. When you tax businesses, that is passed onto the consumer. This guy is just putting it on your receipt, instead of bumping the price on the pancakes. It happens with other businesses too.
    The fact of the matter is that you don't have to buy from Dennys or any other franchise that practices this sort of thing.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    The fact of the matter is that you don't have to buy from Dennys or any other franchise that practices this sort of thing.
    I believe they will all be doing it. It's just a matter of will it show on your bill as a "5% obamacare surcharge" or will it be hiden in the price of the item you are buying. Either way, the increased cost to the consumer will be roughly the same.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal wit

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Does that really have to be explained to you? There are people in this country who just don't get treated because they don't have enough money to pay for it. Oh, sure, they can go to the ER for critical care, but by the time cancer sends you to the ER, it's probably too late to save you.

    Is there no medicaid?
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    It was a stupid move for this guy to go about this in this way. More than likely, he just did more to hurt his business by playing at being a politician than Obamacare would have hurt his business. Why would people want to go to his Denny's when he's charging more than other Denny's are? People will say "If other denny's can handle the costs without charging this or cutting employee hours, why does this douche need to do it?" and they are right to ask that question, because he's trying to make a political statement more than anything else. If it was really about costs, he'd take a plan of action that wouldn't push customers away. Instead, he chose to make a political statement that will hurt his business.

    Incredibly stupid business decision on his part. He deserves to lose business for it.
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