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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    What these idiots don't realize is that most people in America are willing to pay an extra 25 cents for their pancakes if it means that people get healthcare. See...most Americans get it...and we also get something that these business fools do not seem to get...and that is, we won't patronize businesses that operate in this way. This guy and the Papajohn's guy are going to learn a lesson in free-market capitalism.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    GUYS GREAT NEWS!

    Turns out the owner of this Denny's was just making it up! That's a big relief, but let me tell you, this story is a sign of things to come.

    Denny's Grand Slam breakfast for $6.99, brought to you by a server who's coughing up blood because he doesn't have health insurance = FREEDOM BABY! Where do you think the red in the red, white and blue came from? When the server coughs blood onto you, he's saying "let's be patriots today, you and I!"

    Denny's Grand Slam breakfast for $7.20 brought to you by a "healthy" server who isn't "coughing" up "blood" = SAUL ALINSKY STYLE JIHADIST MARXIST SOCIAL COMMUNISM

    Come on, man, paying more for my meal at Denny's? That place is the one last safe place for capitalism, where we pay because it's worth it to make their enormous corporation even more enormous. Wait a second...

    dennys-free-breakfast.jpg

    Nevermind i guess the Kenyan already got to them PARASITE NATION. Back to Waffle House which I always liked better anyway
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal wit

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I've asked this question before on this forum, and on others as well, and never once got a positive answer. I've had several say "no", and some "No (bleep!)ing way", but no yes or even maybe:

    Some of the members of this forum live in Canada and other nations that have universal health care. Would any of you trade your health care system for that of the United States?

    Anyone... anyone???
    Interesting question indeed. If they felt so passionately attached to their own systems' superiority, one would have to ask why so many of them cross the border into this country in order to get access to care. It seems that many of them are voting with their actions if perhaps not out loud .

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    So your belief is that employers are responsible to provide for their employees healthcare. Right? All employers? And what of their families?

    Pathetic, yet oh so typical. You dont believe people should take care of themselves...that duty should rest with those that manage to actually find success or with the government. Everyone but the individual.

    So...that mom and pop business...the one that hires two, maybe three workers and barely makes enough to pay the bottom line yet manages to pay their employees salaries...them too...right? After all...THEY have to follow all those other rules. So...they should pay too. Right?

    Employers cover there OWN HC. They think it is the responsability of the business to cover their HC and retirement.......

    Solution for all = Single payer

    Then business is totally out of the HC business.
    EMPLOYEES should take their income and provide for their own healthcare. Its pathetic that we continue to dump everyone elses failings at the feet of those that succeed.

    Im guessing from your response you DONT think ALL employers should be responsible for ALL their employees? Is that right? Just the successful ones.

    If every state in the country wanted to implement their own version of a Massachusetts style healthcare then they by all means should go right ahead and do so. And tax and fund their programs accordingly and NOT dump their debt or fiscal mismanagement on other states or future generations.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal wit

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Interesting question indeed. If they felt so passionately attached to their own systems' superiority, one would have to ask why so many of them cross the border into this country in order to get access to care. It seems that many of them are voting with their actions if perhaps not out loud .
    Could be, except that the USA is way, way, down on the list of destinations for medical tourism. Those busloads of Canadians coming to the US when "Hillarycare" was being debated? Turns out they were fictional.

    Sure, a few wealthy Canadians come here for cosmetic surgeries and the like that they couldn't get readily at home, but, no, the US is not a medical tourism destination for anyone.

    Any Canadians ready to answer the question?
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    um.... not entirely.

    ...John Metz, who owns around 40 Denny’s and multiple Dairy Queen Locations in Florida, as well as a franchise called Hurricane Grill & Wings, made news and ruffled diner food fans’ feathers when he told the Huffington Post that he planned to add a 5 percent surcharge at the start of next year in addition to cutting back some full-time employees to part time. His reasoning, he said, was that the measures are necessary to offset the costs of the Affordable Care Act, which goes into full effect in 2014.

    But now representatives for Metz are walking back those statements, telling ABC News in a statement that while Metz will cut back hours his employees work, the 5 percent surcharge was merely speculation, and never was his actual intention.

    “Hurricane Grill & Wings will be implementing the 28 hour [maximum hour] rule in all corporately owned and operated restaurants starting in Q1 of 2013. The 5 percent surcharge mentioned in various online outlets is pure speculation and only a potential option should the law be re-written to include full-time equivalents,” the statement read. “The surcharge is not to be implemented or considered at this time.”...
    So yes, no surcharge. The consumers don't get screwed - the workers do.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    um.... not entirely.



    So yes, no surcharge. The consumers don't get screwed - the workers do.
    I'm sure they'll be devastated to learn that they'll lose their hours working for such a nice man who wants nothing more than to deny them health care coverage in order to make more money.

    If you can't treat your employees humanely and insist on limiting their hours to screw them over, you can charge as much or as little as you please, I'll never set foot in your establishment again. Well, Denny's is horrendous garbage, so it's not much of an issue, but this guy is a jerk.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal wit

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Could be, except that the USA is way, way, down on the list of destinations for medical tourism. Those busloads of Canadians coming to the US when "Hillarycare" was being debated? Turns out they were fictional.

    Sure, a few wealthy Canadians come here for cosmetic surgeries and the like that they couldn't get readily at home, but, no, the US is not a medical tourism destination for anyone.
    oh rearry?

    ...Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams is seeking heart surgery in the United States, drawing criticism from “local bloggers and people calling in to the province’s immensely popular open-line radio shows.” Yet his actions are hardly unusual for world leaders. Saudi Arabian King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz is known to have his checkups at the prestigious Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi had heart surgery at the Cleveland Clinic in 2006 . Even middle-class Canadians are utilizing their proximity to the United States to seek treatment here....
    British Columbia sends patients to Seattle for coronary artery surgery. Bypassing the queue in Canada.

    Faced with long waiting lists for cancer treatment, the government of Quebec province, Canada, plans to send patients to the United States at a cost of $US15000 (9375) each.

    A big driver is waiting time periods. Due to government provision, there is a shortage of doctors in single-payer nations far worse than the doctor shortage here in the states.

    A hospital survey of five countries (United States, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and Australia)... found that “waits of six months or more for elective surgeries were reported to occur ‘very often’ or ‘often’ by 26–57 percent of executives in the four non-U.S. countries; only 1 percent of U.S. hospitals reported this. (Half of all Canadian hospitals reported an average waiting time of over six months for a 65-year-old male requiring a routine hip replacement; no American hospital administrators reported waits this long.)

    Shona Holmes, for example, had a brain tumor that needed to be removed immediately; and was told that the wait to see the endocrinologist was four months, and the wait to see the neurologist was another six.

    It got so bad that the Canadian Supreme Court had to intervene in order to make sure that Canadians could escape their health system, in order to seek necessary care. "Access to a waiting list is not access to health care".

    And so on and so forth ad nauseum. And this is before we even get into the issue of medical innovation.


    Any Canadians ready to answer the question?
    When asked about their own health care instead of the "health care system," more than half of Americans (51.3 percent) are very satisfied with their health care services, compared to only 41.5 percent of Canadians; a lower proportion of Americans are dissatisfied (6.8 percent) than Canadians (8.5 percent)
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    I'm sure they'll be devastated to learn that they'll lose their hours working for such a nice man who wants nothing more than to deny them health care coverage in order to make more money to be able to continue to hire them at all.
    Fixed that for you.


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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    EMPLOYEES should take their income and provide for their own healthcare. Its pathetic that we continue to dump everyone elses failings at the feet of those that succeed.
    My employer doesn't buy me auto insurance! My Rights Are Being Abused!!!

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