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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What are you talking about? Just because I didn't put up a plan means that I'm being dishonest? I will deal with things my way and just because I do that does not mean I'm being dishonest.
    No, because you never discuss the status quo. Or offer a real alternative. You just bitch and offer nothing in return.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    BS!
    Eliminate the ER mandate.
    Hell you could greatly reduce cost by limiting the function ER now serves.
    That is one way to take care of it.
    You know, even Reagan thought leaving people to die in the streets was wrong. I guess you don't have a problem with denying people life saving treatment and thus leaving them to die in the streets. People think our civilization has moved beyond the barbaric nation of the caveman. Some people have perhaps. Others, clearly have not.

    Thanks for earning your reputation that you are totally okay with letting people die in the streets.

    Sure lets just eliminate people from the discussion because they earned something right?
    Ridiculous.
    And that refutes my point how? Saying that no one else can get Socialized medicine while you are on it is rather hypocritical.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It's sad that the government providing health-care to everyone is the bad guy, and not the guy putting the extra cost onto the people, and the workers.

    Though this is an argument for a single payer system as well though.
    No it's sad that people don't understand the agenda behind Obamacare.

    You do realize if you allow government to dictate healthcare you allow government to dictate your life and all industries??

    If you can control healthcare you can control everything via a domino effect.

    If you think I'm wrong then tell me one thing that doesn't effect your health? So basically Obama care will allow the government to pick winners and losers.

    If I'm Obama and if the fast food industry doesn't play ball and do what I demand - hey, I'll just say "fast food is bad for you so since we have socialized healthcare it makes sense to tax cheeseburgers at 2 dollars to pay for those suffering from obesity." Of course progressives would buy that, hook line and sinker.

    Obamacare is more of a threat to civil liberties and freedom, not to mention economy than the Patriot Act ever was.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You know, even Reagan thought leaving people to die in the streets was wrong. I guess you don't have a problem with denying people life saving treatment and thus leaving them to die in the streets. People think our civilization has moved beyond the barbaric nation of the caveman. Some people have perhaps. Others, clearly have not.

    Thanks for earning your reputation that you are totally okay with letting people die in the streets.



    And that refutes my point how? Saying that no one else can get Socialized medicine while you are on it is rather hypocritical.
    In what universe do you believe Obama or the government in general gives a rats ass about you?

    We're only talking about the same Obama that sat back and watched our ambassador in Benghazi get dragged through the streets and murdered while he said "meh."

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    In what universe do you believe Obama or the government in general gives a rats ass about you?

    We're only talking about the same Obama that sat back and watched our ambassador in Benghazi get dragged through the streets and murdered while he said "meh."
    How was anything you posted even relevant to what you quoted?

    Or are you simply trying to get a rise out of someone smarter than you?
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    How was anything you posted even relevant to what you quoted?

    Or are you simply trying to get a rise out of someone smarter than you?
    What I articulated has absolutely everything to do with your assertions made.

    You label others barbaric for not supporting socialized healthcare as if somehow the architects of this plan actually care about you (or anyone else). I offered a prime example of one of these architects not giving a rats ass about a fellow US citizen and ambassador yet it goes right over your head?

    There is not one person in our state or federal government that gives a rats ass about you or you're healthcare.

    If you were so damn smart you would realize this.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Dance, dance, dance.

    You held out that they were two different things. As shown, they are not.
    You purposely used derogatory slang and then denied it meant what it did.

    For a minute there I thought Dick Clark was having you review records on BANDSTAND.

    YOur problem seems to be with the sources that I used which clearly demonstrate that a VULTURE CAPITALIST is a far different thing that a VENTURE CAPITALIST. Not only did Wikpedia recognize this, but no less than Newt Gingrich recognized this and gave you reasons why the distinctions made a difference.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueGj788tV-Q

    Governor Rick Perry of Texas also did the same.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...sm_is_bad.html
    "There's a real difference between venture capitalism and vulture capitalism. Venture capitalism, we like. Vulture capitalism, no. And the fact of the matter is that he's going to have to face up to this at some time or another, and South Carolina is as good a place to draw that line in the sand as any because those people in Gaffney, S.C., understand what happened to that photo album company. The folks in Georgetown, S.C., understand the jobs that were lost and that Bain Capital took $20 million and $65 million respectively from each of those deals and walked away from it. That's not what we're looking for in a president of the United States. We're looking for someone who knows how to build jobs, create jobs, and that's what I've done in the state of Texas. So, there's no use trying to paper this over. That is a problem for Mitt, and he's going to have to face it."

    You seem very unwilling to accept changes in the language. That is your right. But others, including all those people named above and many many more have moved beyond being stuck in the past.

    Perhaps this will help you see the difference

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWnB9FGmWE

    it was produced by conservatives very much in favor of capitalism and very much against the vulture tactics of Romney and others.

    If you do not like what conservatives have to say, perhaps you can stop attacking me for a moment and read what a liberal Nobel prize winning economist has to say about vulture capitalism?

    http://civiltongue.com/?tag=vulture-capitalism

    http://www.merge-left.org/2012/06/03...debate-on-bbc/

    Or perhaps John Nichols writing in the Nation will offer you a different perspective away from that of the conservative politician?

    http://www.thenation.com/blog/168899...re-capitalism#
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You know, even Reagan thought leaving people to die in the streets was wrong. I guess you don't have a problem with denying people life saving treatment and thus leaving them to die in the streets. People think our civilization has moved beyond the barbaric nation of the caveman. Some people have perhaps. Others, clearly have not.

    Thanks for earning your reputation that you are totally okay with letting people die in the streets.


    If you use that as a justification for government action then there is no limit to government power. A supposedly 'benevolent despotism' is still despotism. In a free society, the responsibility for ones survival lies with the individual. Those who wish to help 'people dying in the streets' are free to do so. What they are not free to do is compel me to help that person.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    For a minute there I thought Dick Clark was having you review records on BANDSTAND.

    YOur problem seems to be with the sources that I used which clearly demonstrate that a VULTURE CAPITALIST is a far different thing that a VENTURE CAPITALIST. Not only did Wikpedia recognize this, but no less than Newt Gingrich recognized this and gave you reasons why the distinctions made a difference.

    Gingrich Attacks "Vulture Capitalist" Romney - YouTube

    Governor Rick Perry of Texas also did the same.

    Perry: Venture Capitalism Is Good, Vulture Capitalism Is Bad | RealClearPolitics



    You seem very unwilling to accept changes in the language. That is your right. But others, including all those people named above and many many more have moved beyond being stuck in the past.

    Perhaps this will help you see the difference

    When Mitt Romney Came To Town

    it was produced by conservatives very much in favor of capitalism and very much against the vulture tactics of Romney and others.

    If you do not like what conservatives have to say, perhaps you can stop attacking me for a moment and read what a liberal Nobel prize winning economist has to say about vulture capitalism?

    vulture capitalism CivilTongue

    http://www.merge-left.org/2012/06/03...debate-on-bbc/

    Or perhaps John Nichols writing in the Nation will offer you a different perspective away from that of the conservative politician?

    Romney Still Reaps Huge Profits From Bain's Vulture Capitalism | The Nation
    Like I said: (and shown)
    By definition, it is derogatory slang for a Venture Capitalist.

    And

    Dance, dance, dance.

    You held out that they were two different things. As shown, they are not.
    You purposely used derogatory slang and then denied it meant what it did.



    Dance, dance, dance.


    So please continue dancing. It is fun to watch.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal wit

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Allowed myself to see? I've spent 7 years with Tricare now. Unless all your ailments can be magically cured by Motrin, government medicine sucks.



    There should be as many as is necessary to fill demand at the price people are willing to pay. Command and Control economies - as you are suggesting we engage in - rarely have beneficial results for those unfortunate enough to live under them.
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