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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post



    He cites a Wiki entry without linking to it.
    Maybe because it was only recently added to Wiki in July?
    So definitions in July somehow are disqualified? What does that do to all information posted after July? That is simply a silly thing to bring up and it in no way shape or form negates the use of the term vulture capitalist.

    There is a clear difference between a venture capitalist and a vulture capitalist. Of course, if you refuse to see the difference, that is on you.

    And then you want to get into playing BATTLE OF THE DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS. Amazing.

    In doing so you totally and completely miss the point of my use of the term in the first place to refer to Romney and the many accusations against him leveled by HIS FELLOW REPUBLICANS for being a vulture capitalist.

    Oh - by the way - they did so BEFORE JULY.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's simple, if purchasing from somebody absorbs you of parasitism, then nobody is a parasite.
    Except, of course, for those who don't purchase but take simply take.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Except, of course, for those who don't purchase but take simply take.
    ANd you were asked before - what persons are you referring to? Who is it in America who never purchases anything but simply takes everything they use or consume?
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    ANd you were asked before - what persons are you referring to? Who is it in America who never purchases anything but simply takes everything they use or consume?
    There are plenty of people who take what isn't theirs. It runs the gamut from the lowly pickpocket to AIG. I can't list everyone for you.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So definitions in July somehow are disqualified? What does that do to all information posted after July? That is simply a silly thing to bring up and it in no way shape or form negates the use of the term vulture capitalist.

    There is a clear difference between a venture capitalist and a vulture capitalist. Of course, if you refuse to see the difference, that is on you.

    And then you want to get into playing BATTLE OF THE DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS. Amazing.

    In doing so you totally and completely miss the point of my use of the term in the first place to refer to Romney and the many accusations against him leveled by HIS FELLOW REPUBLICANS for being a vulture capitalist.

    Oh - by the way - they did so BEFORE JULY.
    Yes we know when it was reported that a Republican said such. BFD!

    By definition, it is derogatory slang for a Venture Capitalist. Which I am sure you know, which would be why you chose to use it.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Because sometimes people, our fellow citizens, fall into circumstances due only to an illness. It wipes out their savings and their home and tears apart their family. How is that good for the health of our country to then put more people on welfare?
    That is where Private Charity needs to step in and help make these people whole again. It's also why people need to be working to achieve sufficient education and training where they can get a job that provides health insurance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Or we could continue to go the route millions do already and follow Romney's model of getting picked up by an ambulance for a ride to the ER and then receiving treatment for which they won't pay?
    Very simple answer to that - Stop requiring emergency medical centers to provide treatment for people who can't pay or who have proven an unwillingness to pay bills in the past.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    We can continue to pay more what we could pay less if we just managed it up front.
    It's not a matter or More or Less. It's simply a matter of which pocket we're pulling the bills from.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Yes we know when it was reported that a Republican said such. BFD!

    By definition, it is derogatory slang for a Venture Capitalist. Which I am sure you know, which would be why you chose to use it.

    Absolutely he did. The double standard for liberals never ceases to amaze.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Yes we know when it was reported that a Republican said such. BFD!

    By definition, it is derogatory slang for a Venture Capitalist. Which I am sure you know, which would be why you chose to use it.
    If you read both the definition I submitted as well as listen to the comments from many prominent Republicans, you will see that they identify substantitive and real differences between the traditional venture capitalist and the far more predatory vulture capitalist.

    I opted to use it because it was an apt fit.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Absolutely he did. The double standard for liberals never ceases to amaze.
    Newt Gingrich.
    Rick Santorum.
    Rick Perry.
    Sarah Palin.
    Haymarket.

    Liberals all it would appear.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It's sad that the government providing health-care to everyone is the bad guy, and not the guy putting the extra cost onto the people, and the workers.

    Though this is an argument for a single payer system as well though.
    Which was my statement since the moment this legislation passed.

    It's common sense, which is why in no way, shape, or form did I believe it was something the Democrats passing the legislation didn't realize would happen.

    Government imposes news regulations and costs on Businesses.

    Businesses exist to make money

    Businesses when faced with new costs will pass said costs onto the consumer or their employees to the degree that it doesn't provide a net negative to them making money.

    Democrats will then go "See! Those horrible greedy Business people took the fine/passed the price onto consumers...we MUST do single payer!"

    I've said, since the moment this legislation started looking like a done deal in this format, that this was the end game plan for Democrats. Single Payer was having trouble actually getting support enough to get even moderate blue dog democrats on board, let alone Republicans. It was going to need a better supporting argument....so get your "health care reform" done AND do it in such a way that the obvious, common sense response to it would end up simply facilitating that additional supporting argument you need.

    I love the outrage and shock at Business doing what Republicans and Businesses have said been saying business do for my entire life.....when you impose financial burdens on business you're actually imposing it on hte consumer because the cost will almost ALWAYS be passed onto the consumers.

    This is basic common sense...yet we get flabbergasted and upset when that happens? Bull. Its a faux outrage, or one that's done by those simply blind to reality and playing right into their parties general hopes...this is going just according to plan.

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