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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Sorry my friend, but words have meanings. You can't call someone a parasite if they purchase something from someone else.
    Can you name somebody who doesn't purchase from somebody else?
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    With insurance companies covering kids on their parent's policies up to age 26, how will this affect those businesses that generally hire kids between 18-25. These kids will have insurance, if their parents have it, right? So it might benefit these companies to hire many more kids in that age range just for that purpose. They can work them 40 hours a week, offer them a not so great insurance plan, knowing they will just stay on with Mom and Dad. Nothing to worry about until they turn 26.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Can you name somebody who doesn't purchase from somebody else?
    I'm not sure what you're asking.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    If everyone else raises their prices too, then what you're suggesting amounts to punishing someone for being honest about their reasons for doing so.

    Businesses always pass the costs of government action to the consumers. If you make it more expensive to do business, prices of goods and services go up, basic principle.
    Most places I would frequent don't brag about raising their prices no less blame the Govt.
    Surely you see that this is nothing but a tantrum from another infantile Right winger who's mad as hell that Romney lost.
    I'm still waiting for Ted Nugents reaction. My 2 year old grandson has more coherent thoughts than that man.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I'm not sure what you're asking.
    It's simple, if purchasing from somebody absorbs you of parasitism, then nobody is a parasite.
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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    In zee teeth. No free lunch boxes.

    Parasite Nation comes with costs... fewer jobs... hidden taxes... everywhere.

    But it's freeeeeeeeeee! Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    Wrong numb nuts. It's Aints free.
    This is nothing but political grandstanding. The guy really has no clue what the real impact will be on his business as we really are only week one into acknowledging that Obamacare is with us. The free market has yet to react with products to address the new healthcare market and the regs have yet to be fully written on the adoption of the law.

    I am also a franchisee. I have 55 employees, most of whom are part time. With a little growth in my business, which I expect next year, I am also subject to the provisions of this law. However, unlike this yahoo, I am not crying about it and grandstanding on an issue that I do not fully understand (as no one really does).... as I DO understand there are a lot more steps ahead in the full implementation of this law, including actions by congress to provide relief for adoption of provisions in many instances.

    I just returned from our national conference held in Detroit last weekend. My franchise did make a big deal about Obama care implementation. Though I believe our franchise is ahead of the curve here, they also went off rather half-baked with statements of fear that did little but cause angst within the ranks. They could not answer many questions, in many cases only speculating. They also were operating on a lot of assumption, not providing real answers, because they did not know..... nor does this Denny's franchisee (who, I speculate, voted for Romney).

    Sorry, IMHO, we are running ahead of ourselves in fear of the unknown. This will be ok.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 11-16-12 at 12:02 AM.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    What is a "vulture capitalist"? Did you mean to type "venture capitalist"?
    perhaps this will help from the Wikipedia entry on the topic?

    Vulture capitalist
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    A vulture capitalist is an investor who used the clauses of the terms of an investment deal in a company to seize ownership of the company or valuable parts of it outright.[1][2] Whereas a venture capitalist invests in a company likely to succeed in the marketplace and hence show a profit to the investor, a vulture capitalist looks to invest in a firm likely to fail to show a profit in the near term, triggering the takeover clauses, resulting in forfeiture of some or all the assets of the company, with an eye towards selling off the constituent parts, hence showing a profit while destroying or hobbling the company.[1][2]
    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    As for the definition, that doesn't describe a parasitic activity.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    post 135.

    The definition is clear. it is the difference between helping to build a company and helping to destroy and dismantle a company.


    He cites a Wiki entry without linking to it.
    Maybe because it was only recently added to Wiki in July? Vulture capitalist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    If one searches the term on Google, the first entry is the following:

    Definition of 'Vulture Capitalist'
    1. A slang word for a venture capitalist who deprives an inventor of control over their own innovations and most of the money they should have made from the invention.

    2. A venture capitalist who invests in floundering firms in the hopes that they will turn around.

    Investopedia explains 'Vulture Capitalist'
    Like them or not, many vulture capitalists make more money than the venture capitalists do.
    Vulture Capitalist Definition | Investopedia

    The Free Online Dictionary defines it this way.

    Vulture Capitalist
    1. An investor who buys companies in or near bankruptcy in order to save them.

    2. An investor who buys the rights to a new product or invention in order to profit from its sale. The term is somewhat derogatory as vulture capitalists deprive inventors of the money they would make otherwise. However, vulture capitalists may be in a better position to market these new products than the inventors themselves. See also: Vulture fund, Venture capital.

    vulture capitalist financial definition of vulture capitalist. vulture capitalist finance term by the Free Online Dictionary.


    It is apparent to me that the use of the recent Wiki entry was an attempt at subterfuge and it should also be apparent that everyone knew what he meant even if he tried to cover.
    It is still a "Venture Capitalist".

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I have no idea. There are hundreds if not thousands of variables, which would be different for every single individual.

    One would have to add up every service received by the government (R) and then one would have to add up all the taxes paid to the government (T). If one could determine R and T, a person whose R > T would be a parasite, while a person with an R < T would be a host.

    I think it would be difficult if not impossible to quantify.
    On an individual basis it is very easy to quantify.

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    The real question is whether or not I am willing to pay a 5% surcharge at Dennys so that everyone in the U.S. gets healthcare? The answer is a resounding yes.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with co

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It's sad that the government providing health-care to everyone is the bad guy, and not the guy putting the extra cost onto the people, and the workers.
    It's even sadder that people think that Obamacare is government providing health-care to everyone. This ain't socialism; it's corporatism. It is even sadder that people think that you can get things without costs.

    Though this is an argument for a single payer system as well though.
    It is neither an argument for or against single-payer. It merely demonstrates that things have costs.

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