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    Re: Focus on Petraeus and Taxes as Obama Faces Reporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Go to the polls forum or look up Stanford study gap between rich and poor. It's been going for a long time. I haven't quite figured out how link from the iPad.

    It has been going up for quite some time because as the government grows the middle class shrinks. You cannot have a large government and a large middle class, at least not for very long.

    And as long as the government spends over $1,000,000,000,000 each nine or 10 months with money that it doesn't have, with no budgets whatsoever, that trend has to continue until there is only the political class and the rich and powerful. There is no alternative.

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    Re: Focus on Petraeus and Taxes as Obama Faces Reporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're missing badly. There is a context, a history. And if you read the NYT today, you'll find both sides think an agreement can be reached. Never pretend that a single sentence or even speech stands absolutely alone.
    Youre missing badly. Obamas context and history both show that he does not compromise or accept new ideas. There no need to read the New York Times today when I can read his exact speech where he offers no options but his own.

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    Re: Focus on Petraeus and Taxes as Obama Faces Reporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, but all he has ever done is suggest.
    He's not king. This isn't China.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Focus on Petraeus and Taxes as Obama Faces Reporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It has been going up for quite some time because as the government grows the middle class shrinks. You cannot have a large government and a large middle class, at least not for very long.

    And as long as the government spends over $1,000,000,000,000 each nine or 10 months with money that it doesn't have, with no budgets whatsoever, that trend has to continue until there is only the political class and the rich and powerful. There is no alternative.
    Not what the Stanford study reports. Thing is, do you believe ideology or studies more?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Focus on Petraeus and Taxes as Obama Faces Reporters

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Youre missing badly. Obamas context and history both show that he does not compromise or accept new ideas. There no need to read the New York Times today when I can read his exact speech where he offers no options but his own.
    Anyone who believes that is drinking the koolaid.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Focus on Petraeus and Taxes as Obama Faces Reporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Anyone who believes that is drinking the koolaid.
    You told me! Now tell Obama. He hasnt gotten the message yet.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...class-tax-cuts

    When it comes to taxes, for example, there are two pathways available.

    One says, if Congress fails to act by the end of the year, then everybody’s taxes automatically go up – including the 98% of Americans who make less than $250,000 a year. Our economy can’t afford that right now. You can’t afford that right now. And nobody wants that to happen.

    The other path is for Congress to pass a law right away to prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of anyone’s income. That means all Americans – including the wealthiest Americans – get a tax cut. And 98 percent of Americans, and 97 percent of all small business owners, won’t see their income taxes go up a single dime.

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    Re: Focus on Petraeus and Taxes as Obama Faces Reporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He's not king. This isn't China.
    Please use quote where I said Obama was king or that the USA was China.

    Otherwise don't bother me with your juvenile lerftisms.

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    Re: Focus on Petraeus and Taxes as Obama Faces Reporters

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Please use quote where I said Obama was king or that the USA was China.

    Otherwise don't bother me with your juvenile lerftisms.
    It was the proper reply to what you said. To expect him to do what you want he would have to be one of those things. Don't get mad at others if the argument you present lacks logic.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Focus on Petraeus and Taxes as Obama Faces Reporters

    True compromise takes two to meet in the middle, not one side saying they want compromise, then double down on their plan, and not budge. I say let it go over the cliff, and hang it around Obama's neck.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: Focus on Petraeus and Taxes as Obama Faces Reporters

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    True compromise takes two to meet in the middle, not one side saying they want compromise, then double down on their plan, and not budge. I say let it go over the cliff, and hang it around Obama's neck.
    Why? Obama's not getting re-elected either way. I think most people will see if Republicans try to do that, and every one in the House has to run again in 2 years. That would be a heck of a gamble for Boehner to take for no real gain politically.


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