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    Re: Australian priests could be forced to breach seal of the confessional

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Um, dude, you need to re-read what I said.
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    Re: Australian priests could be forced to breach seal of the confessional

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Priests are just men, like any other man. Though I'm no longer a Christian, I'm pretty sure allowing pedophilia to continue for the sake of keeping a ceremonial secret would be a pretty big sin. Furthermore, I believe pedophiles who rape children should be eligible for capital punishment, priest or not.
    what about the doctor-patient confidentiality agreement?

    Corporations hide behind their crimes by imposing all sorts of legalities upon their work force and staff

    There must be a higher authority that supercedes all these agreed upon contracts and takes into account the interests of the public or the defenseless - children, elderly etc

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    Re: Australian priests could be forced to breach seal of the confessional

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I guess you failed to read my comment. I specifically said "Unless the person is talking about specifically harming someone."

    Thanks for wasting your time and mine.
    The way it was written and context seemed like you were saying only if the confessor was talking about a crime to be committed.

    Otherwise your comment makes no sense since we were talking about a perp who confesses to molesting a child in order to gain absolution.

    Consequently we'll give you the "Captain Obvious" award.

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    Re: Australian priests could be forced to breach seal of the confessional

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    The way it was written and context seemed like you were saying only if the confessor was talking about a crime to be committed.

    Otherwise your comment makes no sense since we were talking about a perp who confesses to molesting a child in order to gain absolution.

    Consequently we'll give you the "Captain Obvious" award.
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    Re: Australian priests could be forced to breach seal of the confessional

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    FWIW - Even doctors, under the seal of medical privacy, are required to report such.
    What about lawyers? Therapists? I think that confidentiality isn't necessarily a bad thing; nor should in this instance the government have the power to mandate theistic practice.
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    Re: Australian priests could be forced to breach seal of the confessional

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    what about the doctor-patient confidentiality agreement?
    Doctors have a duty to report anyone who they feel is a danger to themselves or others.

    Corporations hide behind their crimes by imposing all sorts of legalities upon their work force and staff
    Irrelevant

    There must be a higher authority that supercedes all these agreed upon contracts and takes into account the interests of the public or the defenseless - children, elderly etc
    There isn't.
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    Re: Australian priests could be forced to breach seal of the confessional

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Priests are just men, like any other man. Though I'm no longer a Christian, I'm pretty sure allowing pedophilia to continue for the sake of keeping a ceremonial secret would be a pretty big sin. Furthermore, I believe pedophiles who rape children should be eligible for capital punishment, priest or not.
    It doesn't stop the Catholic Church from doing it over and over and over again, nor change the fact that for many, many years, it was official church doctrine not to report priests accused of sexual crimes to the police. They're not worried about sins, they can rationalize their way around anything, they care about money and keeping things quiet.
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    Re: Australian priests could be forced to breach seal of the confessional

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    what about the doctor-patient confidentiality agreement?
    I think doctors ought to be required by law to report rape injuries too, suspicions of child molestation, etc.

    Corporations hide behind their crimes by imposing all sorts of legalities upon their work force and staff
    In fact, it is against the law for employers of all kinds to act against employees who blow the whistle on criminal activity.
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    Re: Australian priests could be forced to breach seal of the confessional

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It doesn't stop the Catholic Church from doing it over and over and over again, nor change the fact that for many, many years, it was official church doctrine not to report priests accused of sexual crimes to the police. They're not worried about sins, they can rationalize their way around anything, they care about money and keeping things quiet.
    Then it's time we make them "see the light". With force if necessary.
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    Re: Australian priests could be forced to breach seal of the confessional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What about lawyers? Therapists? I think that confidentiality isn't necessarily a bad thing; nor should in this instance the government have the power to mandate theistic practice.
    I'm all in favor of lawyers being required to report evidence that they come into possession of. I think defense lawyers, if their client admits to committing the crime, should be obligated to turn that confession over to the prosecution. The point here is justice.
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