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    Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture

    Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture: Phillip Morris | cleveland.com

    CLEVELAND, Ohio — I tried to ignore Shena Hardin. I really did. This region and nation are confronted with far more pressing issues than her brand of recklessness.

    But as I watched her coolly light up a cigarette on camera Tuesday, before casually hoisting a handwritten sign that properly declared her an "idiot" for failing to stop for a Cleveland school bus, I could only marvel at Hardin's remarkable disinterest and aloofness before the condemning eyes of the public.
    IMO the idiot here was the judge.

    Seriously, what was this supposed to accomplish?

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    Re: Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture

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    IMO the idiot here was the judge.

    Seriously, what was this supposed to accomplish?
    Shame..

    You know, that thing we used to all commonly share as a society. Now there is no shame in ANYTHING..


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    Re: Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture

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    IMO the idiot here was the judge.

    Seriously, what was this supposed to accomplish?
    Making the legal penalty for the "idiotic" act harsher. It seems that the state law fine for illegally passing a bus by illegally driving on the sidewalk should perhaps exceed that for speeding or DUI, but the judge was at least trying to add something that might deter her next attempt to get there "on time" by placing others at risk of injury or death. I would have prefered elevating the initial charge(s) to reckless driving and suspending the driving license for at least a year along with a much, much higher fine.
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    Re: Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture

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    IMO the idiot here was the judge.

    Seriously, what was this supposed to accomplish?
    If you have a better solution, bring it.
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    Re: Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture

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    Shame..

    You know, that thing we used to all commonly share as a society. Now there is no shame in ANYTHING..


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    So what you can't accomplish through the law you'll accomplish through public humiliation?

    This woman was already shamed, the judiciary getting involved is an abrogation of our system of justice.

    I call a ten yard penalty for piling on. Seriously, why didn't the judge just condemn her to a public stoning? Much more efficient and satisfying to those who find their vision of morality compromised by constitutional protections.

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    Re: Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture

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    If you have a better solution, bring it.
    How about a larger fine and temporary suspension of her driving privileges? I don't see anywhere in our constitution or system of justice where public humiliation is a meted punishment to be ordered by the courts.

    You can see how well it worked in this situation. The woman is a YouTube sensation. I wonder when she'll hit the speaker circuit.

    All this accomplished was making our system of justice look Byzantine.

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    Re: Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    So what you can't accomplish through the law you'll accomplish through public humiliation?

    This woman was already shamed, the judiciary getting involved is an abrogation of our system of justice.

    I call a ten yard penalty for piling on. Seriously, why didn't the judge just condemn her to a public stoning? Much more efficient and satisfying to those who find their vision of morality compromised by constitutional protections.
    I'm ok with stoning..

    Seriously though, she lit a cigarette and rolled her eyes before dawning the idiot sign. She, like so many American's, isn't capable of feeling shamed for passing a school bus, or taking food stamps when you and your husband both work, and one of you takes cash under the table, or anything else you can think of. It used to be taboo and embarrassing to accept welfare, it was once thought of as a sign of failure. Those days you'd be on it for a month, maybe two or three, but got yourself back off as soon as possible. What was the motivator back then as opposed to now?

    Now, society has become the negative nancys. You know who they are, they are the group or pack of people that always hang out together complaining about why their sales suck, or why they can't do this or that because of some excuse NOT of their own fault. It's always someone else's fault. I used to sell cars for a living way back, and there was ALWAYS this group of sales folks that hung out together ALWAYS complaining about why they couldn't sell a car today, or this week, or that month.. It was always the weather, or bad advertising, or bad economy etc.. etc.. They empowered each other and fed off each others shame to a point where it was no longer shameful, and the good salespeople became the targets of their anger. It was the good sales people that felt like outcasts..

    Something is wrong when poor performance, or poor behavior is what's normal, and good and great performance and behavior is what's to be reviled. It's exactly what has happened to black culture in America, it's what's happening to our younger generation of all stripes, and it's damn time we all start admitting it.


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    Re: Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture

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    IMO the idiot here was the judge.

    Seriously, what was this supposed to accomplish?
    The only thing the judge was an idiot for is letting the woman obscure her face and take smoke breaks while she holds up a sign. If you drive on a sidewalk to avoid stopping at a bus stop sign and refuse to stop at a bus stop sign not only once but on multiple occasions you should be publicly humiliated,everybody in town should know what a ****en moron and piece of **** you are.
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    Re: Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture

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    IMO the idiot here was the judge. Seriously, what was this supposed to accomplish?
    Well, if the intent of punishment is also to act as a deterrent? Her example probably reminded a whole lot of people that they should be stopping for school buses.
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    Re: Woman sentenced to carry the 'idiot' sign is just the tip of an idiot culture

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    How about a larger fine and temporary suspension of her driving privileges? I don't see anywhere in our constitution or system of justice where public humiliation is a meted punishment to be ordered by the courts.

    You can see how well it worked in this situation. The woman is a YouTube sensation. I wonder when she'll hit the speaker circuit.

    All this accomplished was making our system of justice look Byzantine.
    You don't think she got a fine or anything?
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