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    Re: U.S. to Be World’s Top Oil Producer in 5 Years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    None. We have taken 6 refineries offline in the past few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roflpublican View Post
    jesus if it really takes 30 years we're screwed. but i cant imagine anything takes 30 years to build...i mean we can make aircraft carriers from scratch including nuclear reactors in 4 years. i cant believe it takes 30 to make an oil processing facility. do you have any sources for that figure? i'd be shocked if it was true
    It doesn't take 30 years. This is a country that started WW II with almost no military manufacturing capacity and ended up producing over 300,000 airplanes and a thousand ships in 4 years. The problem is refusing to allow the permit to be issued and the hole to be dug.

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    Re: U.S. to Be World’s Top Oil Producer in 5 Years

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    It doesn't take 30 years. This is a country that started WW II with almost no military manufacturing capacity and ended up producing over 300,000 airplanes and a thousand ships in 4 years. The problem is refusing to allow the permit to be issued and the hole to be dug.
    good. that makes me feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    My understanding is the current regulatory policies and Local Bribe Club/Public Official Retirement Plans make that virtually impossible to do anywhere near where the oil comes in. I think I heard somewhere it takes about 30 years to build a fully functioning refinery anyway but IDK.
    Not even close to true. In a rush, you could build an average sized (I'm basing average on the three refinery's around here) in probably 2-3 years based on how long it takes to build other types of plants and various units inside plants. If you think of the refinery as a bunch of little units all right beside each other, then think about the fact that you can have crews working on each unit at the same time (standard procedure) you can have the entire thing operational possibly even sooner than my 2 year estimate, depending on if you want they crews to work 40 hour weeks or 50's and how many guys you have on the job.
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    Re: U.S. to Be World’s Top Oil Producer in 5 Years

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    It doesn't take 30 years. This is a country that started WW II with almost no military manufacturing capacity and ended up producing over 300,000 airplanes and a thousand ships in 4 years. The problem is refusing to allow the permit to be issued and the hole to be dug.
    Building a refinery will take four years. Going through the regulations process and getting every NGO's approval will take 26 years.

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    Why on Earth would it take 30 years to build a refinery?
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    Re: U.S. to Be World’s Top Oil Producer in 5 Years

    Quote Originally Posted by roflpublican View Post
    good. that makes me feel better.
    Does it make you feel better that one of our newest refineries took 7 years just to get one single clean air permit?

    Depending on where it is located, you have the additional headaches of environmental law suits to try to stop you. You then must also take into consideration the issues with building pipelines and stuff. The regulatory aspects are the headache. I read they had tried to build a super refinery in Louisiana but after basically having to bribe local "facilitators" to bribe the endless line of local officials, the company gave up on it but I forgot which company that was.


    YIPPEE! Two New Oil Refineries in Development. First in US in 35 Years. « freedombytheway

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    U.S. to Be World’s Top Oil Producer in 5 Years


    When it happens, I will believe it.

    Not before.

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    Re: U.S. to Be World’s Top Oil Producer in 5 Years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Does it make you feel better that one of our newest refineries took 7 years just to get one single clean air permit?

    Depending on where it is located, you have the additional headaches of environmental law suits to try to stop you. You then must also take into consideration the issues with building pipelines and stuff. The regulatory aspects are the headache. I read they had tried to build a super refinery in Louisiana but after basically having to bribe local "facilitators" to bribe the endless line of local officials, the company gave up on it but I forgot which company that was.


    YIPPEE! Two New Oil Refineries in Development. First in US in 35 Years. « freedombytheway
    why dont we use solar powered trains to deliver oil to refineries in the desert where no one cares about the environment? actually nevermind, that sounds too much like compromise between the left and the right to ever work.

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