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    Re: Food stamps reach record 47.1 million

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    What happened to the first four? According to Obama he had a laser like focus on the economy. How often did we hear that? Last I recall... unemployment was higher than when he took office.
    If you haven't figured it out by now you probably never will. The first year, like the year that preceded it, was dominated by the worst recession since WWII which resulted in millions and millions of lost jobs, in addition to instability in the financial markets and serious damage to the real estate and construction sectors.

    The next three years were ones of gradual recovery, as the financial sector and consumers deleveraged and the real estate markets worked out problems with massive foreclosures and short sales. The process was aided by TARP, the stimulus, and financial reform legislation.

    Presently there is a large, unmet need for new homes that will create millions of jobs as the real estate and construction sectors accelerate. Both consumers and banks are in much better shape which will allow for increased consumer spending and lending.

    The stage is set for a nice recovery over the next four years, though as always it's vulnerable to black swans, such as a possible deep recession in Europe or political/economic problems in Asia (or per usual, something that's not even on our radar).
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Food stamps reach record 47.1 million

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yea sure...
    Anyone is a socialist who disagrees with you right?
    No.
    Here is who they are:
    Socialist of Amerika Partei (SAPs) members and those who pine to create more and more Socialist legislation.
    There are no Blue Dawgs. Proof you ask? The Obamakare bill. Only Dems voted for that slippery bit of liberty stripping, socialist loving legislation. A Blue Dawg would never vote for it. They did. Blue Dawgs my ass. They voted for a huge swath of Socialist legislation and debt... and by so doing showed their true colors. The remainder were lost causes... known SAP members.

    The D's are SAPs pushing creating, promoting and defending Parasite Nation.

    If a D showed some fiscal sanity and voted against ObamaKare, they can be excluded.

    Otherwise... they're ObamaKare lov'in Socialists. They voted for something their leadership said... "we have to pass the bill to see what's inside it..."
    These Socialists couldn't wait to lay down the foundation of socialist medicine. They even used parliamentary tricks when Brown was voted in to stop it.

    Parasite Nation.


    Their "hangers on" are poor people? So you have a problem with poor people correct?
    I have a problem that vote for Para-sita-claus; those who think government is the answer in their lives. I want someone else to pay for my contraceptives... if not you hate women, I want someone to pay for my healthcare, rich people should pay more... for me...

    That is my problem. Now it's the government's and mine, and frankly... they tend to complicate and fark things badly, so I don't want them as my partner thank you. They fail... everywhere, and our bureaucrats aren't any better than anywhere other western civilized nation.

    Get ready for a ride... the poor are going to get shafted... bad. As will the middle class.

    QUOTING something falsely attributed to Lincoln, but is Linconesque:
    "You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
    You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
    You cannot lift the wage-earner by pulling down the wage-payer.
    You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
    You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
    You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
    You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
    You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative
    and independence.
    You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could
    and should do for themselves."

    Amen.

    You have not explained to "paraiste nation"
    I have, but thanks for the oportunity:
    Parasite Nation is:
    1. Those who foment it. Those of the political, journ-O-alistic, and celebrity/Hollyweird class to name a few who have sway that promote it.

    2. Those Socialists, Takers and Ignoramuses that empower it.

    Even shorter: Parasite Nation; the preachers, the takers, and the ignoramuses.

    "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country"
    Parasite Nation... it's backwards... like... "Ask not what you can do for your country - ask what your country can steal from others to give to you."

    PARASITE NATION.
    Yes We Can!
    Screw 'em man...
    Yes We Can!
    Screw 'em man...
    Yes We Can!
    Screw 'em man...
    Yes We Can!

    REVENGE!
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Food stamps reach record 47.1 million

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    If you haven't figured it out by now you probably never will. The first year, like the year that preceded it, was dominated by the worst recession since WWII which resulted in millions and millions of lost jobs, in addition to instability in the financial markets and serious damage to the real estate and construction sectors.
    The Carter years were worse. Stagflation. Double digit unemployment, double digit inflation and interest rates.

    Reagan did not have Congress.
    He turned it around with a hostile press to boot.

    As he said about his opponents... "They don't call it Reaganomics anymore" because America recovered with a vengeance.

    The only vengeance we've seen from Obama is on America an Americans. Unemployment is higher today, 6 Trillion spent, and Obama predicted with his master touch of spreading the wealth around, and keeping the presses running, that we would be below 6%.

    Wrong. No excuses. Obama may have been reelected, but he is a failure. He didn't even try to defend his economic record in the debates because he couldn't. Four years of failure.

    The next three years were ones of gradual recovery, as the financial sector and consumers deleveraged and the real estate markets worked out problems with massive foreclosures and short sales. The process was aided by TARP, the stimulus, and financial reform legislation.
    ROTFLOL... "gradual recovery"... there is no recovery... we have higher unemployment today than 4-years ago. ObamaKare is going to make it worse, as will any tax hikes.
    Presently there is a large, unmet need for new homes that will create millions of jobs as the real estate and construction sectors accelerate. Both consumers and banks are in much better shape which will allow for increased consumer spending and lending.
    I have pages of foreclosures. It's a good time to buy... getting property through distress where banks want to dump them...prices haven't been lower. There is quite the inventory.

    Don't expect some housing/construction boom like the bubble we just had and had in the early 90's that created the Resolution Trust Corp.

    Obama had 6 Trillion and lots of shovel ready jobs he said. Lots of infrastructure to repair. WTH happened?
    We had a bust. Mr. Compassion even joked that "I guess there weren't as many shovel ready jobs as we thought".
    Nope Homer... there weren't.

    The stage is set for a nice recovery over the next four years, though as always it's vulnerable to black swans, such as a possible deep recession in Europe or political/economic problems in Asia (or per usual, something that's not even on our radar).
    If Obama does as is expected, he'll make things worse. He's proven it. His solutions are more borrowing, more debt, more government. Just aren't the right ingredients for a healthy recovery.

    We have entered into... Parasite Nation.
    Last edited by zimmer; 11-12-12 at 05:51 PM.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Food stamps reach record 47.1 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    whomp they it iz?

    You just are latched onto the concept that all welfare recipients are still black queens with 20 kids in the ghetto, aren't you? you can say "but i didn't say that" but your tone is obvious - that's what you mean.

    Truth is - the majority are white, live in more rural areas, and have lost jobs in industries across the US where 'the average joe' can't find adequate work fast enough.

    You're being a judgmental and racist.

    You know - my husband busts his ass to put food on teh table but because of medical issues - he can't as of yet do the job hunting because he's in the military and they have him stationed at a healthcare facility - and not at home where he can see out employment. So when he's done with treatment he's out . . . and we *might* have to go on foodstamps if neither of us can secure employment fast enough.

    Quite your bull**** - you'd rely on them if you had no other choice just like so many people have been forced to do.

    I'd say 'educate yourself a bit' on people and society before forming such impish opinions - but I think you've already decided you don't want to look at things openly.

    And you're tye type of person who gives conservatism it's bad, foul name and ruin it for the rest of them - who aren't so snotty and judgmental of others.
    weird this post was ignored, i wonder why. Good post Aunt Spiker
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    I love when a thread fails in the very first post, its hilarious.
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    Re: Food stamps reach record 47.1 million

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The Carter years were worse.
    "Worse" is subjective. But by the objective standards used to measure recessions, the Great Recession was the worst one since the Great Depression. And being as it was rooted in the financial system, it was much harder to repair than Reagan's recession.

    ROTFLOL... "gradual recovery"... there is no recovery... we have higher unemployment today than 4-years ago.
    Making objectively false statements doesn't do much for your case. Since the economy bottomed millions of jobs have been created, unemployment has fallen, and the markets have recovered. It isn't logical to fault Obama for the damage that was done while the economy was crashing due to events that preceded him.

    I have pages of foreclosures. It's a good time to buy... getting property through distress where banks want to dump them...prices haven't been lower. There is quite the inventory.
    Again, you are making objectively, provably false statements. The real estate market is startin to turn around. Prices are rising, not falling, and the housing inventory has also fallen quite sharply.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...s-recover.html

    Nation's Shadow Inventory Falls to More Than 3-Year Low - The Home Front (usnews.com)

    Don't expect some housing/construction boom like the bubble we just had and had in the early 90's that created the Resolution Trust Corp.

    Obama had 6 Trillion and lots of shovel ready jobs he said. Lots of infrastructure to repair. WTH happened?
    We had a bust. Mr. Compassion even joked that "I guess there weren't as many shovel ready jobs as we thought".
    Nope Homer... there weren't.
    We don't want another housing bubble -- just a return to normal levels of price and construction.

    The stimulus, of course, worked, as the vast majority of economists concede.

    So really, you need to give reality a call; it misses you.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Food stamps reach record 47.1 million

    If you don't want another bubble, then argue that the feds shouldn't be pumping the additional 1.3 trillion into the economy every year.

    Deficit spending borrows from future GDP. It will bite us in the ass.

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    Re: Food stamps reach record 47.1 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    If you don't want another bubble, then argue that the feds shouldn't be pumping the additional 1.3 trillion into the economy every year.

    Deficit spending borrows from future GDP. It will bite us in the ass.
    Totally different issue, and everyone understands that we need to lower deficits.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Food stamps reach record 47.1 million

    Weve had record unemployment for years...many more homeless...more people have lost their homes than ever before...unemployment benefits long ago expired....OF COURSE PEOPLE NEED FOOD STAMPS....how bout passing a law for every decent job outsourced by greedy pigs they have to create two more right here for americans...that will work ..voila no more food stamps...problem solved

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    Re: Food stamps reach record 47.1 million

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    No.
    Here is who they are:
    Socialist of Amerika Partei (SAPs) members and those who pine to create more and more Socialist legislation.
    There is no such thing as this.
    Please come back to reality.

    There are no Blue Dawgs.
    I never said that.

    Proof you ask? The Obamakare bill.
    Affordable Care Act is not socialist.
    Still ran by private insurance companies.

    Only Dems voted for that slippery bit of liberty stripping,
    Doesnt make it socialistic. Just because the majority of one party voted for it does not make it socialist, that sort of reasoning is idiotic.

    socialist loving legislation.
    Its still private insurance. Its ran by private insurance companies. That isnt socialist. Thats the opposite of socialist bud.

    A Blue Dawg would never vote for it. They did. Blue Dawgs my ass.
    What are you even talking about? Why did you bring "blue dawgs" into this?

    They voted for a huge swath of Socialist legislation and debt...
    Its not socialist.

    and by so doing showed their true colors.
    What?

    The remainder were lost causes... known SAP members.
    There is not a SAP.


    The D's are SAPs pushing creating, promoting and defending Parasite Nation.
    Sure they are.
    Supporting human beings how awful


    If a D showed some fiscal sanity and voted against ObamaKare, they can be excluded.
    Yup no sanity in a private ran insurance scheme.
    You do know a conservative group came up with this plan back in the 90's and was implemented by a republican governor right? You do know its pretty successful?



    Otherwise... they're ObamaKare lov'in Socialists.
    Thats some top notch logic.

    They voted for something their leadership said... "we have to pass the bill to see what's inside it..."
    Ewww scary.


    These Socialists couldn't wait to lay down the foundation of socialist medicine. They even used parliamentary tricks when Brown was voted in to stop it.
    Fundamentals? How is this fundamental socialized medical care when its privatized? Wouldnt it be fundamental if it wasnt privatized?


    Parasite Nation.
    Yup. Sure is.




    I have a problem that vote for Para-sita-claus;
    Now your making up words man...

    those who think government is the answer in their lives.
    Whats wrong with that? I mean the gov is good at killing people can it not be good at assisting and helping people?

    I want someone else to pay for my contraceptives...
    Well i think we SHOULD have SOCIALIZED MEDICAL CARE in this country (we dont) and i believe contraceptives should be covered.

    if not you hate women,
    Thats not true.

    I want someone to pay for my healthcare, rich people should pay more... for me...
    I believe we should have a system of progressive taxation in this country were the rich do pay more in taxes.


    That is my problem. Now it's the government's and mine, and frankly... they tend to complicate and fark things badly, so I don't want them as my partner thank you.
    If you dont want them to and you become poor Zimmer (or maybe you are) then guess what you dont have to accept federal assistance.

    They fail... everywhere, and our bureaucrats aren't any better than anywhere other western civilized nation.
    Cool opinion.


    Get ready for a ride... the poor are going to get shafted... bad. As will the middle class.
    Wait i thought you said they were parasites and you make it sound like they are living the fat life of the taxpayers dime so why all the sudden will they be shafted?


    QUOTING something falsely attributed to Lincoln, but is Linconesque:
    "You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
    You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
    You cannot lift the wage-earner by pulling down the wage-payer.
    You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
    You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
    You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
    You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
    You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative
    and independence.
    You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could
    and should do for themselves."

    Amen.
    Cool.


    I have, but thanks for the oportunity:
    Parasite Nation is:
    1. Those who foment it. Those of the political, journ-O-alistic, and celebrity/Hollyweird class to name a few who have sway that promote it.
    Cool/


    2. Those Socialists, Takers and Ignoramuses that empower it.
    Cool.


    Even shorter: Parasite Nation; the preachers, the takers, and the ignoramuses.
    Cool.

    You know you sound a bit authoritarian, a bit fascistic, a bit suprimisus saying that all these people "are parasites" because they disagree with you.. Kinda sickening Really divisive.

    "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country"
    You know in your book JFK might of been a member of "parasite nation"..

    Parasite Nation... it's backwards... like... "Ask not what you can do for your country - ask what your country can steal from others to give to you."
    Since they are stealing?

    PARASITE NATION.
    Yes We Can!
    Screw 'em man...
    Yes We Can!
    Screw 'em man...
    Yes We Can!
    Screw 'em man...
    Yes We Can!

    REVENGE!






    AFter reading all that garbage and jrible im glad im back in reality. Time to get off Zimmer planet of Parasite Nation and invisible socialists and "SAPS" and im back to reality. Thank god!


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