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    Re: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Wouldn't a better graph be deficit with the colors being which party held the house of Representatives.
    I don't think so. Regardless of what the Republican rhetoric is they have been just as much of an influence as Democrats and the out of control spending.
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    Re: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What?
    Would you like to elaborate? Try your hand at making a full sentence with nouns and verbs?

    "Parasite Nation"? "Class warfare"?
    Yes... that's what you support. That's the purpose of graduated taxation. To divide people. To make them envious. To demand government thieve wealth for them.

    What?
    Try a sentence. You sound like a Yenta.


    Lets see here when your government is not bringing in enough revenue and you want to get rid of the debt and deficit lowering taxes especially on the richest is not the answer. Plus thats when the deficit exploded was under these tax rates.

    So are you done using all these rhetoric?
    Lower taxes, cut regulations, and watch unemployment melt. Cut government spending to the bone. Increased revenue and a smaller government will reduce our debt.

    As I illustrated in Denmark and have stated before... taxes are used to inhibit behavior. To reduce it.

    There is a study where people are given 10 dollars, and the one must give the other some... and they need negotiate this, and come to an agreement or they get nothing. The study showed people do not like to be screwed... even if it was free money. Some opted for nothing than having the feeling the other screwed them.

    Obama has pissed in the mouth of the Golden Goose. And increasing taxes is going to make people who create jobs even more resentful. It's human nature.

    Parasite nation is not uplifting, it is not positive, it is coercive, ham handed, heavy handed and spiteful. The current leader revealed that during the campaign. He won... but with scorched earth, and that is 100% different from the fraud that ran in 2008.

    Parasite Nation need learn you don't piss in the mouth of the Golden Geese. Encourage them, encourage their kind... don't punish them.
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    Re: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    I don't think so. Regardless of what the Republican rhetoric is they have been just as much of an influence as Democrats and the out of control spending.
    I always think more information is better, the graph showed the accumulating debt vs which
    party held the white house.
    Spending originates in the House of Rep. and over spending is a deficit,
    I would like to see who overspends more.
    It would also be necessary to zero out the surplus funds liberated from Social security since 1967.

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    Re: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Wouldn't a better graph be deficit with the colors being which party held the house of Representatives.
    and the Senate, yes. The Congress still has the purse strings, even when they've untied them and are handing out cash by the handfuls.
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    Re: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires

    Let the Bush tax cuts expire for those over $250,000, and you raise......drumroll please.....

    $50 Billion/yr.

    Only 5% of the yearly deficit. Brought to you by the party of one idea.

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    Re: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What?



    "Parasite Nation"? "Class warfare"?


    What?


    Lets see here when your government is not bringing in enough revenue and you want to get rid of the debt and deficit lowering taxes especially on the richest is not the answer. Plus thats when the deficit exploded was under these tax rates.

    So are you done using all these rhetoric?
    So you theory is that only 7.5 million people in this country, is solely responsible for over 15 trillion dollars in debt ? You must believe this, because you keep arguing for those 5% to shoulder the bill.

    If you don’t believe in class warfare, then you would admit, our debt is all of America’s problem, and everyone should be included when it comes to paying off this debt ..

    So what it is .. . Do you promote class warfare and believe that only 7.5 million Americans created our 15 trillion dollar debt, or do you believe that it’s a problem that all Americans helped to create ?

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    Re: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and the Senate, yes. The Congress still has the purse strings, even when they've untied them and are handing out cash by the handfuls.
    Says this very quiet ….. Remember the last few years of Clinton … and that balanced budget liberals love to brag about ?? Hmmm who controlled both congress and the senate during those years ???

    Just saying. ….

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    Re: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires

    If you want us to continue creating jobs, you need to give us tax breaks.

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    Re: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Read more @: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires - Salon.com

    Holy ****! Are some conservatives actually opening their eyes? Are they finally banking away from this "no taxes on the rich" bull****? Are they finally gonna sacrifice the interests of the richest of the rich for the rest of the American public?
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    Re: Bill Kristol: “It won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Would you like to elaborate? Try your hand at making a full sentence with nouns and verbs?


    Yes... that's what you support. That's the purpose of graduated taxation. To divide people. To make them envious. To demand government thieve wealth for them.


    Try a sentence. You sound like a Yenta.



    Lower taxes, cut regulations, and watch unemployment melt. Cut government spending to the bone. Increased revenue and a smaller government will reduce our debt.

    As I illustrated in Denmark and have stated before... taxes are used to inhibit behavior. To reduce it.

    There is a study where people are given 10 dollars, and the one must give the other some... and they need negotiate this, and come to an agreement or they get nothing. The study showed people do not like to be screwed... even if it was free money. Some opted for nothing than having the feeling the other screwed them.

    Obama has pissed in the mouth of the Golden Goose. And increasing taxes is going to make people who create jobs even more resentful. It's human nature.

    Parasite nation is not uplifting, it is not positive, it is coercive, ham handed, heavy handed and spiteful. The current leader revealed that during the campaign. He won... but with scorched earth, and that is 100% different from the fraud that ran in 2008.

    Parasite Nation need learn you don't piss in the mouth of the Golden Geese. Encourage them, encourage their kind... don't punish them.
    Here is my opinion on this, we cannot an will not get our deficit under control by cutting taxes. I’m sorry I know I list my lean as conservative, but I’m trying to be realistic as well

    I would propose letting the tax rates (only the tax rates) go back to what they were for everyone. That would still increase revenue.

    Then we must see cuts in spending, I’m not talking about a reduction of future spending , when you are saying I’m going to increase spending on project X by 10%, now that I’m going to reduce that to 5% that isn’t a cut … it’s a raise in spending .. Just by 5% rather then 10%. We need real, honest spending cuts.

    Then we need to put our focus on “JOBS” industrial and factory jobs that pay a decent wage with benefits. The major problem of losing our middle class is the jobs leaving this country, combined with new technological advances that allow us to produce more with less people. If we don’t find a way to bring those jobs to America … then no matter what we do, all is lost we can’t recover without them.

    I don’t like Obama and have made that perfectly clear, but I agree with his speech, (lets see if actions follow what he says) that we need a balanced approach . But I would warn people at the same time, that when he says we need to “invest” in something, that is spending ... money going out the door is spending no matter what you call it.

    The CBO just analyzed his new budget for 2013, in adds basically a trillion dollars a year over the next 10 years, that’s according to the CBO in simple terms that is just not acceptable. And remember that is with the projected growth that this administration is saying will happen. If that growth is under expectations that deficit climbs accordingly.
    Last edited by The Barbarian; 11-12-12 at 08:37 PM.

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