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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    What you say is true.both sides,/whomever decides to run, would face the same restrictions.Even self funded runs for political office.GET the damn money out of campaigns.
    You do understand that will never happen? It has always happened and always will be a part of politics. Money makes the world go round.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    You do understand that will never happen? It has always happened and always will be a part of politics. Money makes the world go round.

    You're probably right but i also have a week old powerball ticket in the waste basket four feet from my monitor.Wanna buy it?
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    I just don't want you to go all "It's the corporations meyannn (dirty hippy accent)" on us. Your post was talking about politicians making money off of big buisness. I want you to keep in mind that money is made by ALL parties...and that Unions and Special Interest groups provide a huge flow of cash to politicians as well. Not just those "evil corporations."
    Never called a corporation evil, though I would say I don't see them putting the good of people over the bottom line.

    and while unions do contribute, have you even heard j, or TD, or any of the. Usual suspects ever complain about the problem with corporate money? Just union money. The worker is a moocher. The corporation?

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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Never called a corporation evil, though I would say I don't see them putting the good of people over the bottom line.

    and while unions do contribute, have you even heard j, or TD, or any of the. Usual suspects ever complain about the problem with corporate money? Just union money. The worker is a moocher. The corporation?
    Business' are not in business for the good of the people, they are in business to make money. Granted there are some dirty underhanded companies out there...they need to be gone...thats where YOUR pocket book comes into play, not government regulation.

    Lately it is the Unions that are the highest contributors to campaigns...
    Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012 | OpenSecrets - Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012

    1. ActBlue*
    2. American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees
    4. National Education Assn
    5. Service Employees International Union
    8. Carpenters & Joiners Union
    10. American Federation of Teachers
    11. United Auto Workers
    12. Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
    13. Laborers Union
    14. Communications Workers of America
    15. Teamsters Union
    16. United Food & Commercial Workers Union

    12 of the top 16 campaign donors from 1989 to 2012 are unions. Unions are pouring more money into elections than private companies or corporations. 1 is classified as a PAC.

    * ActBlue has only been around since 2004 - 8 years after this list started, but are the highest campaign bundler of the past 23 years...they are classified as a PAC, but they are a Democrat only contributor. ActBlue: Summary | OpenSecrets
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Never called a corporation evil, though I would say I don't see them putting the good of people over the bottom line.

    and while unions do contribute, have you even heard j, or TD, or any of the. Usual suspects ever complain about the problem with corporate money? Just union money. The worker is a moocher. The corporation?
    The WORKER isn't the moocher Boo. The MOOCHER is the crappy worker that is protected by the unions. Sadly I have seen this several times. Crappy workers all for unions because they don't get protected because of the quality of their shoddy work. I have seen this in Teachers' Union here in my area (we have TERRIBLE educators who can barely pronounce letters of the alphabet) and then mail carriers. My own aunt was a union rep and she was an ATTROCIOUS worker. No work ethic moocher. Of course she screams for unions because she has 0 work ethic and 0 marketable skills without a union.

    Don't mistake all that as "anti-union" talk. They served a purpose, but they need to shape up. Cut your crap workers and watch the money fall from the sky.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    Where in the post that you quoted was Obamas name mentioned?

    Are you serious? Was Obama in charge of his campaign?
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Never called a corporation evil, though I would say I don't see them putting the good of people over the bottom line.

    and while unions do contribute, have you even heard j, or TD, or any of the. Usual suspects ever complain about the problem with corporate money? Just union money. The worker is a moocher. The corporation?

    Why you would use your response to another poster to by name attack me in such a dishonest way is beyond belief. However, since you have opened that door, and attributed things to me that I don't think you can back up, I implore you post for us any of my quotes where I call "the Worker, a moocher", or where I have said that "corporate money is not a problem, but union money is".... In fact, the only time where I even would come close in my opinion would be when someone like you wants to endlessly bash Conservative Corporations for donating to republicans, but then ignore totally the union's involvement in donating to demo candidates. So, I think you need to show us where I said any of the things you so dishonestly say here, or retract it and apologize.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are you serious? Was Obama in charge of his campaign?


    Lets set this up so...just maybe you can get a handle on it.

    In post#424. I quoted stonwalls post, which was ...“

    stonwall

    I just don't want you to go all "It's the corporations meyannn (dirty hippy accent)" on us. Your post was talking about politicians making money off of big buisness. I want you to keep in mind that money is made by ALL parties...and that Unions and Special Interest groups provide a huge flow of cash to politicians as well. Not just those "evil corporations." “ ..
    in post #425. I quoted stonwalls post, with this post...

    ”Then you would have no problem with spending limits on political campaigns;at state level and national? “

    to which you quoted the above in post #426, with …

    j-mac

    ”Obama has a problem with that, or have you forgotten?”
    now you come back in a dialogue, which stonwall and I were discussing spending limits, in a presidential campaignthat has spent $2 billion so far,with this statement in post post# 436.


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    “Are you serious? Was Obama in charge of his campaign? “
    Now that you have the post lined up,tell me how any of your post makes any sense.is it some lameass,primal desire to answer a post? to...i guess-post padding?WHO KNOWS? let me know, i wont bother to answer any of your post.I,ll just let you go on your post padden merry way . Have a good day.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    Lets set this up so...just maybe you can get a handle on it.

    Hold on right there, just stop with the over the top arrogance. I am aware what the discussion was, and is. You made the proposition that finance reform in elections is needed to stem the amounts of money from special interests controlling the elections. I am not totally opposed to that line of thinking if it were to address both sides of the isle equally.

    But, we have tried different methods of campaign finance, remember the tax form box check for a dollar? That didn't work. Then we had McCain Feingold which proved to be a limit on speech....And I pointed out that although you wanted to talk a big game of campaign finance, you want to come at it seemingly from a position where you are not aware, or genuinely dishonest about your own candidates end run around finance laws in '08 to gain the office in the first place....So, in short it was kind of a "splinter in my eye, while ignoring the tree in your own" kind of thing. So save your Alinsky style ad hom's and debate like an honest broker, or I have no time for you.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hold on right there, just stop with the over the top arrogance. I am aware what the discussion was, and is. You made the proposition that finance reform in elections is needed to stem the amounts of money from special interests controlling the elections. I am not totally opposed to that line of thinking if it were to address both sides of the isle equally.

    But, we have tried different methods of campaign finance, remember the tax form box check for a dollar? That didn't work. Then we had McCain Feingold which proved to be a limit on speech....And I pointed out that although you wanted to talk a big game of campaign finance, you want to come at it seemingly from a position where you are not aware, or genuinely dishonest about your own candidates end run around finance laws in '08 to gain the office in the first place....So, in short it was kind of a "splinter in my eye, while ignoring the tree in your own" kind of thing. So save your Alinsky style ad hom's and debate like an honest broker, or I have no time for you.
    Where in the above dialog do come up with this scenario ?

    "you want to come at it seemingly from a position where you are not aware,

    or genuinely dishonest about your own candidates end run around finance laws in '08 to gain the office in the first place....So, in short it was kind of a "splinter in my eye, while ignoring the tree in your own" kind of thing.



    It sounds to me that your trying to derail for some lameass reason.
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