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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    I believe that they were singing from that same hymnal when medicare was introduced.funny...the world hasn't collapsed so far.
    I am not certain that they said the same thing, but assuming they did.. Would there be more jobs currently if medicare had never existed, would our debt be as bad, would the states be in better position financially, amongst thousands of other items that may potentially have been better. I don't know. The thing is, neither do you.

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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    I believe that they were singing from that same hymnal when medicare was introduced.funny...the world hasn't collapsed so far.
    Dont know about that, Medicare is a totally different animal. I am sure there was an uproar from the opponents, always is. But Medicare was never accused of being responsible for mass lay-offs and employees having their hours cut to next to nothing in order for business to be compliant with the law.

    Like I have said, there are some really good portions of this law and some really bad portions, IMO the bad greatly outweigh the good.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Dont know about that, Medicare is a totally different animal. I am sure there was an uproar from the opponents, always is. But Medicare was never accused of being responsible for mass lay-offs and employees having their hours cut to next to nothing in order for business to be compliant with the law.

    Like I have said, there are some really good portions of this law and some really bad portions, IMO the bad greatly outweigh the good.

    Don t get me wrong, i'm all for trashing the affordable care act,then replace it with something that actually saves money, like Medicare for all/ national healthcare.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Dont know about that, Medicare is a totally different animal. I am sure there was an uproar from the opponents, always is. But Medicare was never accused of being responsible for mass lay-offs and employees having their hours cut to next to nothing in order for business to be compliant with the law.

    Like I have said, there are some really good portions of this law and some really bad portions, IMO the bad greatly outweigh the good.
    So you support socialized medicine but not private insurance?
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    So you support socialized medicine but not private insurance?
    I support complete and utter reform of the system itself.

    I DO NOT support socialized medicine...at the Federal level. If a State independently chooses to have a medical program (like Mass did)...thats the states issue...thats where the power is supposed to be, not with the Feds.

    I would also be fine with states promoting their own programs as Mass., VA and some other states have already done.

    I am also fine with a state program where all children are covered as long as they are in school....as long as it is a completely state funded and state run program.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    I support complete and utter reform of the system itself.

    I DO NOT support socialized medicine...at the Federal level. If a State independently chooses to have a medical program (like Mass did)...thats the states issue...thats where the power is supposed to be, not with the Feds.

    I would also be fine with states promoting their own programs as Mass., VA and some other states have already done.

    I am also fine with a state program where all children are covered as long as they are in school....as long as it is a completely state funded and state run program.
    But you get that it's still socialism if a state implements single-payer, right? Well ... not necessarily, but to the same extent that it would be if it was done a national level.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    But you get that it's still socialism if a state implements single-payer, right? Well ... not necessarily, but to the same extent that it would be if it was done a national level.
    It is not really SOCIALISM. But if you call it such names on the national level, they would still apply at the state level.

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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    But you get that it's still socialism if a state implements single-payer, right? Well ... not necessarily, but to the same extent that it would be if it was done a national level.
    Its all about Constitutional powers.

    The majority of Conservatives I know are not against these programs, they are against them being done at the Federal level because there are no Constitutional powers allowing it. Now the states on the other hand is a different story, the states know what best suits them, much more than some stuffed shirt bureaucratic pencil pusher in Washington DC does.

    The Federal government was intended to have only those powers specifically listed in the Constitution, not those powers they assume and grab.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It is not really SOCIALISM. But if you call it such names on the national level, they would still apply at the state level.
    You can call it whatever you want to call it, but the powers are supposed to lay with the states not with the Federal government.
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    Re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:3

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    You can call it whatever you want to call it, but the powers are supposed to lay with the states not with the Federal government.
    Actually, the powers are split. The articles of confederation failed, and we had to give the federal government more power, and that's not to mention over 200 years of history since then.

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