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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I think every state ought to consider Universal Healthcare and if their citizens want it, they should pass it and fund it accordingly. I absolutely agree.
    It's better to do it federally, not state by state.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    It's better to do it federally, not state by state.
    No...its better to pretend its someone elses responsibility and allow congress to dump the bill on future generations than for states and citizens to actually have to be responsible for the bill.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    My apologies to Mr. Schnatter. He has come forward and said that his comments were misconstrued. He was responding to a question about what some of his franchisees might do. He was not saying what HE would do as CEO of Papa John's with respect to the employees under his control. In his words:

    Reading what has been written about statements I made on the effect of the Affordable Care Act on our franchisees reminds me of a quote from Lewis H. Lapham, former editor of Harper's magazine: "People may expect too much of journalism. Not only do they expect it to be entertaining, they expect it to be true."

    Many in the media reported that I said Papa John's is going to close stores and cut jobs because of Obamacare. I never said that. The fact is we are going to open over hundreds of stores this year and next and increase employment by over 5,000 jobs worldwide. And, we have no plans to cut team hours as a result of the Affordable Care Act.
    ... and ...

    During that same interview, talking about Obamacare I said, though it wasn't widely reported:
    •"The good news is 100% of the population (full-time workers) is going to get health insurance. I'm cool with that."
    •"We're all going to pay for it. There's nothing for free."
    •"And this way I get to provide health insurance and I'm not at a competitive disadvantage ... our competitors are going to have to do the same thing."

    Papa John's, like most businesses, is still researching what the Affordable Care Act means to our operations. Regardless of the conclusion of our analysis, we will honor this law, as we do all laws, and continue to offer 100% of Papa John's corporate employees and workers in company-owned stores health insurance as we have since the company was founded in 1984.
    John Schnatter: The Real Scoop on Papa John's and Obamacare
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    You mean the Obamahaters lied? Who'd have thought it?
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    My apologies to Mr. Schnatter. He has come forward and said that his comments were misconstrued. He was responding to a question about what some of his franchisees might do. He was not saying what HE would do as CEO of Papa John's with respect to the employees under his control. In his words:
    ... and ...John Schnatter: The Real Scoop on Papa John's and Obamacare
    Mr. Schnatter did not do his homework. In fact many companies have received exemption from Obamacare, thereby skewing competition among companies. There'll be more of that to come for those who have the proper government connections.

    List of Obamacare Exempt Companies

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Mr. Schnatter did not do his homework. In fact many companies have received exemption from Obamacare, thereby skewing competition among companies. There'll be more of that to come for those who have the proper government connections.

    List of Obamacare Exempt Companies
    I don't see any pizza joints on the list, and the waivers are temporary.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I don't see any pizza joints on the list, and the waivers are temporary.
    Why waivers at all then?

    And of course there will be less competition between those who have to pay for Obamacare and those who don't. This goes well beyond "pizza joints".

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    It's better to do it federally, not state by state.
    No it isn't

    Obamacare is a 2700 page bill. You have absolutely no idea what's even in it, or the true impact it's going to have on the Economy. It already is having that effect and it's horribly negative. It's stifling economic growth, productivity, and GDP.

    Throws out your rationality that it's done better Federally when economically it's already having a huge negative impact on the Economy because Obama did it "Federally", but then again HC to you is an emotional issue. Not a rational one.

    Obamacare is a massive tax on the poor, middle class, and young who by a majority usually opt out of Medical Insurance because they are young and healthy and usually don't need it. You're ignorant of why the Founders wished to used Individual States as environments just for these types of Social Experiments. It creates competition which leads to lower costs, high efficiency. and higher overall quality. States can try different ideas, see what works and what doesn't, and continue to create a more robust and affordable system that everyone can enjoy. If other states want to copy the systems that work, then they can vote to do that. It's un-American to remove the Individual States to run HC as they see fit. A Centrally Planned Collectivist HC System is inefficient, expensive, and the overall quality of care sucks. Patients in the UK are dying of hunger and thirst in the hospitals waiting to be treated.

    Patients starve and die of thirst on hospital wards - Telegraph

    If Obamacare fails, and it's failing while it robs Medicare and puts us deeper in a bankrupt abyss, you're stuck with it. You have no alternative. Obamacare is already causing higher insurance premium costs and higher costs of HC while we continue to shed doctors. The incentives are quickly evaporating.

    When it's done Federally as a sweeping "mandate" there is no competition, therefore you get what you get and you like it. Hello Death Panels ... ERRR IPAB. The Socialist Utopians greatest myth is that are these altruistic angels who really do care about everyone and the evil (insert cartoon figure they create through mob propaganda) wants to take these wonderful treats they want to give you for free. The Promise is never the Reality.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why waivers at all then?
    The waivers were created in recognition of the fact that some companies and organizations had longer term arrangements that were harder to change than other organizations' arrangements. The waivers phase out in 2014.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The waivers were created in recognition of the fact that some companies and organizations had longer term arrangements that were harder to change than other organizations' arrangements. The waivers phase out in 2014.
    We'll see.

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