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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, this is a publicly held company. Legally they have a responsibility to their shareholders.
    Im sorry that is greed plain and simple there is no way around it.

    Just one of the many problems with capitalism also.


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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its not silliness...its pathetic. Mommy wont take care of you as an adult, so stick that burden on a business owner. But not every business owner...just the very successful ones. No business should have to 'game the system' because the system should not be forcing the care of grown ass men and women on others.

    So...is that a 'no' re forcing the small business employer to provide for THEIR employees? That seems rather arbitrary and unfair, doesnt it? Why would you force someone to actually pay for their own healthcare just because they have the misfortune of working for...say...a roofing contractor with 12 employees?
    Yes, it is silliness. This is just the way our system has evolved. The employer isn't the "mommy". The employer has just become the main hub for health insurance. It could be done individually without employers if we had health care exchanges and if the cost of insurance was fully deductible to the individual. You'd also have to have a mandate with more teeth than the one we currently have.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, it is silliness. This is just the way our system has evolved. The employer isn't the "mommy". The employer has just become the main hub for health insurance. It could be done individually without employers if we had health care exchanges and if the cost of insurance was fully deductible to the individual. You'd also have to have a mandate with more teeth than the one we currently have.
    Not so...just the very successful employers with 50 or more employees have been tasked to be mommies. This may come as a shock to you, but MANY INDIVIDUALS have ALWAYS taken care of their families healthcare needs. They did it with the paychecks they earned. The simple fact is you and people like you want to dump the health care needs of the individual on the employer. But just the very successful ones. Thats not the employers role. That you want to make it so simply speaks volumes about you.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Added layers of bureaucracy automatically adds to the cost of a program. It is insane that we as a country insist that the states cant manage to take care of their citizens and we MUST by damn create more and greater dependence on the federal government. Pure lunacy.
    And yet the history of this country is rife with situations where we counted on the states to take care of their citizens, and they failed to.
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And yet the history of this country is rife with situations where we counted on the states to take care of their citizens, and they failed to.
    Perhaps because the fed has so readily seized those roles. Mox/nix...it matters not. Some states have clearly shown they can and all states SHOULD be responsible for their health care choices.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    I decided to give Papa John's my business tonight because of the boycott. Normally not a huge fan of chain pizza, but someone said that Papa John's is good if you order the crust well done, so we shall see. Guy should be here in five minutes. In honor of Zimmer, I put "No parasites, please" in the driver instructions box on the online order form. Just kidding. I am not that bad. But I did order the pizza.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not so...just the very successful employers with 50 or more employees have been tasked to be mommies. This may come as a shock to you, but MANY INDIVIDUALS have ALWAYS taken care of their families healthcare needs. They did it with the paychecks they earned. The simple fact is you and people like you want to dump the health care needs of the individual on the employer. But just the very successful ones. Thats not the employers role. That you want to make it so simply speaks volumes about you.
    Well, it IS so, whether you like it or not. About 70% of Americans are covered either through private employer or government plans, about 11% have other coverage, and 17% are uninsured.

    Again, this isn't much of a cost to the employer. The employer passes the cost through to employees and customers.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Well, it IS so, whether you like it or not. About 70% of Americans are covered either through private employer or government plans, about 11% have other coverage, and 17% are uninsured.

    Again, this isn't much of a cost to the employer. The employer passes the cost through to employees and customers.
    Spoken like a true dependent. Obviously you AREN'T concerned about being the guy stuck with the bill. And...we aren't talking about those small business employers are we?

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Spoken like a true dependent. Obviously you AREN'T concerned about being the guy stuck with the bill. And...we aren't talking about those small business employers are we?
    Can you not have a normal conversation without all of the idiotic ad hominem? How about addressing the actual topic?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Can you not have a normal conversation without all of the idiotic ad hominem? How about addressing the actual topic?
    You must miss the differing of opinion but commentary that say...Pasch and I are having. Hell...go back as far as you want and you will find me stating i believe there should be changes and those changes should be at the state level and as a pay as you go program. Perhaps an assessment of your contribution might be in order.

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