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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

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    Wow, Ignore list with you.
    I'm honored. Any other right wing nut takers?

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Funny. We talk about Papa Johns, Denny's, WalMart, and all these other very successful people that have demonstrated the knowledge, skill and ability to create successful corporations...and on the flip side we have all these people that couldnt manage a lemonade stand funded by their mommy thinking THEY actually understand business, finance, and how to become successful.

    Oh how I long for the day when all the whiners, yappers, and talkers become DOERS and actually show how their marvelous ideas can create jobs for thousands of people. Talk...well...talk is bull****. Put your money in the game. Live that dream.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

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    Why should Govt. foot the bill and vulture capitalists make all the profit? Isn't that corporate welfare?

    Depends on what you term "vulture" capitalists....Venture capital serves a vital need in our society. But I agree, keep government out of it....That would include government acting as the venture capitalist right?
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    .....Ok, ok....look I am just having a little fun with you....Lighten up.
    I thought so but its kinda hard to pick that up on the internet, especially with such users on this site.


    I think you know where I stand as far as ideology goes, and it is antithetically opposed to your ideology. See, I don't think that Socialism is a successful path for anyone, let alone do I want to see it take hold in totality here in America. When such silly rhetoric like terminology like labeling a business owner as "greedy" because he wants to protect the business he has built and not allow government dictate to him what he offers his employees as benefits without passing that cost along as ALL business does is just simply foolish.
    This is a clear case of greed. A $250 million dollar company, vast wealth in this companies hands, giving away 2 million free products of theres, costs very little to make their product, and he is cutting hours for his workers because "he cant afford it". That is a clear case of greed.



    As for what you were wrong in your assumption was, it is that I never classified you as "authoritarian", but I do find it interesting that you recognize that in order for a socialist class system to remain in power it often needs an authoritarian type administration to maintain power.
    I did not recognize that. When someone says that "me and my kind" or whatever the wording was wants to "change freedom" or whatever, usually i think authoritarianism I didnt imply socialism or even bring up socialism into this discussion.


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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This is a clear case of greed. A $250 million dollar company, vast wealth in this companies hands, giving away 2 million free products of theres, costs very little to make their product, and he is cutting hours for his workers because "he cant afford it". That is a clear case of greed.

    No, this is a publicly held company. Legally they have a responsibility to their shareholders.

    I did not recognize that. When someone says that "me and my kind" or whatever the wording was wants to "change freedom" or whatever, usually i think authoritarianism I didnt imply socialism or even bring up socialism into this discussion.
    there are many forms of expression that use the word you, but don't implicitly mean you.
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Funny. We talk about Papa Johns, Denny's, WalMart, and all these other very successful people that have demonstrated the knowledge, skill and ability to create successful corporations...and on the flip side we have all these people that couldnt manage a lemonade stand funded by their mommy thinking THEY actually understand business, finance, and how to become successful.

    Oh how I long for the day when all the whiners, yappers, and talkers become DOERS and actually show how their marvelous ideas can create jobs for thousands of people. Talk...well...talk is bull****. Put your money in the game. Live that dream.
    Give'em hell, Mack! Your Lehman Brothers, your Bear Stearns, your AIGs!! These are the "makers" we should be listening too!!
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Give'em hell, Mack! Your Lehman Brothers, your Bear Stearns, your AIGs!! These are the "makers" we should be listening too!!
    Look at you...silly girl. I mention businessmen that demonstrate and model hard work and success, you retire to your same tired saw about evil bankers. Forget both of them and how about YOU doing something more than being an empty headed shill for democrats and unions? Go actually create a business to hire thousands of people and show us the way instead of continually whining over the success of others.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Maybe I missed this somewhere, but what provisions in Obamacare are actually going to increase the cost for Papa John's to do business? I thought the main provisions of the law were that insurance companies can't drop people when they need care, no discrimination over pre-existing conditions, and that everyone is mandated to purchase health insurance. Are businesses required to provide health benefits when they weren't previously? Why weren't they doing that previously, since work benefits are the only way most people can afford health insurance? The whole point of business provided health insurance was to get a discount for bulk purchases. If businesses aren't up to the task of being providers of health insurance, we really should just decouple them from it.
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Look at you...silly girl. I mention businessmen that demonstrate and model hard work and success, you retire to your same tired saw about evil bankers. Forget both of them and how about YOU doing something more than being an empty headed shill for democrats and unions? Go actually create a business to hire thousands of people and show us the way instead of continually whining over the success of others.
    Listen to you, with your shrill, girly whine, bashing the titans of finance who provide our fine business men and women the wherewithal to go forth and conquer! Now why don't you stop pissing and moaning about poor poor Papa John having to raise the price of a pizza by a nickel so the hard working employees who are paying for his 50,000 sq. ft. mansion might actually have access to health care?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Listen to you, with your shrill, girly whine, bashing the titans of finance who provide our fine business men and women the wherewithal to go forth and conquer! Now why don't you stop pissing and moaning about poor poor Papa John having to raise the price of a pizza by a nickel so the hard working employees who are paying for his 50,000 sq. ft. mansion might actually have access to health care?
    Recycling recently used comments is the weakest form of retort. I would say I expect better of you...but...I dont. Its so...you...

    Do YOU believe every employer is responsible for the health care needs of their employees? And their families? And does that include mom and pop small businesses? By what logic do you come to your conclusion that an employer is responsible for anything more than providing a paycheck for service rendered?

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