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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ok. Im simply criticizing his douchebaggery, and greed.
    Sounds like whining to me.

    Yup, me and mine are trying to make an authoritarian society where there is no freedom. Cool logic man.
    those are your words, not mine...But if you say so.
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is that right?



    Hmmm....Senate budget committee says now costs is 2.6T....Doesn't sound like savings to me....

    Subsidies = code for deductions that every other business gets legally through the tax code. Forcing Private insurers to lower payments to docs, and increase premiums to consumers. IOW Cloward and Piven method of overloading the system until you break it so that you can rebuild it in what you wanted in the first place, and in this case Single payer, even though the majority of American's DON'T want that.

    It never ceases to amaze me just how cynically dishonest liberal progressives are.
    Most Americans receive healthcare insurance thru their employer and you are right most people like what they have.
    The AHC act builds on that and requires that companies over 50 employees offer health insurance so more people may get their insurance thru their employer.
    There are tax sudsidies and other incentives to reduce the costs to the employee and employer so they may comply with the law.
    Over a billion dollars has already been returned to customers because of overpayment of premiums, jus tone of th ecost savings built into the plan.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sounds like whining to me.
    Speaking out against people being fired because of greed is not "whining"


    those are your words, not mine...But if you say so.
    Uhm do you not remember what you said in your last post? "For the moment we still live in a free society, even though you and yours are trying hard to change that."


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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by belyay View Post
    Don't know whether the topic of pizza has derailed. I don't have time to read 27 forum pages. For the CEO of Papa John's to cover the costs which Obamacare would inflict, it would cost him 5 cents per pizza. 5. yet he's planning to increase the cost of pizza 20 cents each. This story is a backdrop for him to increase his revenues while shifting the blame on something which isn't under his control.
    Only 5 cents per pizza? Where are you getting your info, DailyKOS? And what about the death panels?

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Only 5 cents per pizza? Where are you getting your info, DailyKOS? And what about the death panels?
    Forbes. Thats a liberal rag right.

    Roughly 3.4 to 4.6 cents a pie.

    Breaking Down Centi-Millionaire 'Papa' John Schnatter's Obamacare Math - Forbes
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Most Americans receive healthcare insurance thru their employer and you are right most people like what they have.
    don't get me wrong, I wish my health insurance covered more with less deductible, and out of pocket expense, but I think that can be achieved through opening up insurance being allowed to market across state lines, and opening up competition rather than top down dictates.

    The AHC act builds on that and requires that companies over 50 employees offer health insurance so more people may get their insurance thru their employer.
    And in the early going we are already hearing of companies doing what they can to avoid that by dropping their current employees below full time, or pairing back to under the 50 employees number, or simply dropping insurance coverage being offered now, and accepting the penalty. In all three cases it is screwing the working individual. Great Job Obamacare!

    There are tax sudsidies and other incentives to reduce the costs to the employee and employer so they may comply with the law.
    Some obscure write off I get to take at the end of the year, that may move my taxable income and net me back $100 more does little for me week to week. Have you noticed the price of gas, and groceries?

    Over a billion dollars has already been returned to customers because of overpayment of premiums, jus tone of th ecost savings built into the plan.

    Really? I haven't noticed jack ****! I think that is a rouse as well.
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Speaking out against people being fired because of greed is not "whining"
    Sure it is...It isn't up to you what someone should make.

    Uhm do you not remember what you said in your last post? "For the moment we still live in a free society, even though you and yours are trying hard to change that."
    Yep, I said that....I didn't say this...

    Quote Originally Posted by DemSocialist
    Yup, me and mine are trying to make an authoritarian society where there is no freedom. Cool logic man.
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is that right?



    Hmmm....Senate budget committee says now costs is 2.6T....Doesn't sound like savings to me....



    Subsidies = code for deductions that every other business gets legally through the tax code. Forcing Private insurers to lower payments to docs, and increase premiums to consumers. IOW Cloward and Piven method of overloading the system until you break it so that you can rebuild it in what you wanted in the first place, and in this case Single payer, even though the majority of American's DON'T want that.

    It never ceases to amaze me just how cynically dishonest liberal progressives are.
    The Blaze is right but they but they cherry picked(left out data).For instance, this was evidently what their graph was referring to.

    < Assuming that H.R. 6079 is enacted near the beginning of fiscal year 2013,CBO and JCT estimate that, on balance, the direct spending and revenue effects of enacting that legislation would cause a net increase in federal budget deficits of $109 billion over the 2013–2022 period (see Table 1).That net increase in deficits from enacting H.R. 6079 has three major components:>

    this is what the blaze left out of their opinion piece.

    <Deficits would be increased under H.R. 6079 because the net savings from eliminating the insurance coverage provisions would be more than offset by the combination of other spending increases and revenue reductions. In total, CBO and JCT estimate that H.R. 6079 would reduce direct spending by $890 billion and reduce revenues by $1 trillion over the 2013–2022 period, thus adding $109 billion to federal budget deficits over that period>

    theirs 22 pages of reading enjoyment at the link.but its not a winger blog so i guess you will be skipping most of it.Oh,by the way, the missing $100 bill is,buried go find it.

    It never ceases to amaze me just how cynically dishonest conservatives are.


    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...471-hr6079.pdf
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sure it is...It isn't up to you what someone should make.
    Where did i ever say its up to me or say i want it to be up to me?
    Im simply exercising my first amendment right to free speech to speak out against this ****.



    Yep, I said that....I didn't say this...
    When someone wants to "change a free society" like you say i am usually that implies that im trying to make it a non-free society...


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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Forbes. Thats a liberal rag right.

    Roughly 3.4 to 4.6 cents a pie.

    Breaking Down Centi-Millionaire 'Papa' John Schnatter's Obamacare Math - Forbes

    So what? He can set his price at what ever he wants....If the market bears it then good for him.
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