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    Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    TriCare is awesome. Idk what you're talkin about.
    Yeah. And so long as every problem you have can be cured with Motrin, the Naval medical service is the finest healthcare in the world

    If employers are going to start laying off people because they can't afford the health insurance, then that's good news for me because I already have coverage so the employer won't need to provide any. That makes me a more appealing applicant, and maybe moves me off the short list for lay-offs. It could also mean I can get a slightly higher wage....at least until some woman or minority complains, even-though the employer has to buy their insurance while he does not have to buy mine.
    Well you can certainly hope. But it would be rather unfair of you to want more work than your fair share, when that work could go to a black woman with a disability instead.

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    Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

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    If you live near a VA hospital and are willing to put up with crappy healthcare. No thanks.
    What issues do you have with VA hospitals? Are you a physician?
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    Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Credit Default Swaps. The banks created a new synthetic market where they packaged together bad debt and sold it to other banks and investors, which essentially removed the risk from their loans. This freed them up to make more and more loans to less and less qualified people. Sub-prime mortgages were handed out by the boatloads. Loans to people who had no business taking out housing loans, much less at the ridiculous interest rates they were being charged. One day the system came collapsing down when people started defaulting on their loans and the market realized that the majority of the CDS's were absolutely worthless.

    This was not the only cause of the crisis, but it was the biggest part of it. Though the federal government did play a role, YES, the banks are primarily responsible for the crisis, and we decided to bail their rich asses out.

    I believe you were misinformed.
    So since these individuals committed fraud, how come they were never charged? It's not like fraud was legal back then.
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    Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Well you can certainly hope. But it would be rather unfair of you to want more work than your fair share, when that work could go to a black woman with a disability instead.
    "Fair share" = whatever I can take, and I'll accept any edge on my competition I can. It's one of the reasons I joined the service in the first place: it looks great on a resume.

    So if being on TriCare is another edge, awesome.

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    Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    So then why don't we take the burden off of business and have government run health insurance. And I don't mean socialized medicine. I asked that question earlier in the thread. It's a question, not a statement.
    Because if there is any third-party payer who is going to be a worse stand-in for the individual purchaser than an employer, it's the government.

    I have government health insurance. It sucks. Oh, it has limitless coverage, I'm sure. If I get really expensive cancer, it will pay for all the third-rate care I can possibly handle. But it's also a bureaucratic nightmare. It took me two years to convince those people that the woman on my marriage certificate who was also listed as the mother of my child was, in fact, my wife. In the meantime, I was trying to dodge thousands and thousands of dollars of bills from having a child which they were obligated to pay for, but refused to do so.

    Her father was a retiree, you see... so she had already had TriCare as a secondary.... and once you are already in the system, I mean, you're in the system so, I mean, why would you change... I mean, it's not like you can be both one persons daughter and another persons wife... I mean.... she's already in the system.... you see..... so.....

    THEN they accused me of fraud and threatened me because the hospital had originally billed them for a "Baby Smith" (my last name isn't smith, but I'm using it as a stand-in), and I was trying to claim a child whose first name was not "Baby". You see, "Baby" was already in the system... sooooo...... [/rant].

    Where I live, I'm only allowed to use a single hospital, which is about 40 minutes away. If I want to use closer facilities, there is one, but it's for non-emergency healthcare only. So I have to go down to the hospital, get my primary switched over to the closer facility which cannot actually provide anything close to a full range of healthcare, then drive back up to the closer facility, then get the healthcare, then drive back down to the hospital and get it switched back so if there is an emergency or I need healthcare after 1600 or on a weekend I can still get a someone to stitch me back up.

    The Hospital is not exactly state of the art. We had a friend have a baby there last July - she got a nice cot, the husband got a stool. There was no air conditioning. We live on a tropical island. Imagine having your child (and then trying to rest afterwards) in 90 degree heat with 100% humidity.

    U.S. companies compete with other nations who do not burden their companies with employee healthcare. That seems to me an advantage.
    For businesses that is correct. Ditto for the fact that we compete with other nations who burden their companies with a lower corporate tax rate. Less so for the individuals who bear a higher tax burden to pay for an inefficient healthcare system.

    *again, putting on my asbestos under wear for asking what might be a naive question*
    no flame retardation necessary. You are absolutely right that we need to move away from employer-provided health insurance. We just need to move to an actual insurance model of individually purchased health insurance, just like we do for auto, house, and life insurance.

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    Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    "Fair share" = whatever I can take
    Greedy people like you are what caused our economic problems in the first place.

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    Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    What issues do you have with VA hospitals? Are you a physician?
    No, although my college roomate is a doctor who has spent time at one; he's got some pretty bad stories.

    My problem with the VA is that it takes forever to get benefits, the care is substandard, and the limited locations are a hindrance and an inconvenience. Oh, you got a job in the wrong town? Sorry former Sgt Bob, you can either drive two hours each way to get healthcare, or just put bandaids on yourself.

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    Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

    Businesses will use every loophole they can find and the ones to pay the price will be the employees...IMO more will go without healthcare then ever before....those that had healthcare working full time will be cut to part time and instead of one 8 hr shift the companies can just make that into two shifts and not have to be responsible to pay it...there will be all these ways to get around it.....businesses may not lay off all their employees but will for sure cut back their hrs...what a mess...there had to be another way to do this so it does not hurt everyone that has had insurance before from their employers.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

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    Re: Papa Johns' CEO: Obamacare will increase our costs, reduce employee hours

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Greedy people like you are what caused our economic problems in the first place.
    Being available to work odd hours, weekends holidays is another edge. I made sure to do that one even while I was in unskilled labor right out of high school. I can keep a positive attitude at work, too, that's another edge. I don't do stupid **** to get in trouble or hurt, that's another edge. I'll nominate my employer for an ESGR Patriot Award and score brownie points. Another edge. And now I'm going to have 2 technical degrees to show an employer why I should be chosen over someone else, or not be laid-off while others are.

    Evolution proves that nature is brutal competition. Nature doesn't make everything 'fair' (whatever that's supposed to mean), nature has her failures eaten by her winners.

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