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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's not going to happen.
    Actually it's already happening. I've spent the past 19 years down there and most of the new arrivals are American, making the same complaints others are making on these boards and elsewhere. Now that people realize that the Obama thing was more than just a one-off, why would many of them stay? Americans are a pioneering nation and are always prepared for a move.

    And the first world arrivals are doing a lot of good. They've put pressure on local businesses to offer better services, treat their employees with far greater respect (which is now the norm in most areas) and have taught the locals to complain about bureaucracy and foolish government red tape and regulation. It is like a frontier there in many ways, and the local people are learning what the Americans knew when they decided on forming a new system of government in northern America over 200 years ago. Americans seem to have forgotten what made them great.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Actually he would have delayed or disrupted implimentation via excutive order. Theres lots of things he could have done. Popular vote ie government and "duly elected officials". Something like that should not be passed on a bare majority, but a clear majority via constitutional amendment or 2/3s vote in congress instead its 50% plus one. You wonder why theres a bunch of fighting its because theres a bunch of people who HATE this law and they number nearly as many as who do. You shouldnt push any kind of law that way. The reason why not is easy enough to see around you.
    It is a misunderstanding of the benefits of the law as to why several are against it. There is a woman at my work that hates Obama and politics in general but yesterday she was explaining how United Healthcare sent her a thing in the mail saying she wouldn't have to pay co-pays anymore on preventive things such as Pap smears and breast exams come January 1st. In fact our insurance company strongly suggested she do it because if they find something early on the insurance pays for more. I have yet to receive the letter but she also said it said something about prostate exams. She thought it was United Healthcares doing of course it is the Affordable Healthcare Act. You have to take the good with the bad. The healthcare laws aren't perfect, but the net result is beneficial to everyone.
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    I have worked in health care too long to believe we do not need some kind of national health care policy for people who work but can't get insurance through their employers. A a national policy that they could purchase at a reasonable price would have been better than laying it onto the backs of small business. This maneuver alone makes it abundantly clear that Obama does not understand that commerce is the foundation of the American economy. Or that he does understand it and wants to destroy it. Take you pick. Those of us who have any sense knew electing Obama would be a disaster for this country.
    I understand how our healthcare came to rest on the shoulders of business, but, and this may be naive, why does it have to stay on business? Wouldn't health coverage, offered by the government and not employers, be a better thing?

    I ask this question somewhat timidly. It just seems that most 1st world countries don't saddle their country's businesses with providing health coverage and it's an advantage for them in competing against U.S. corporations. I'm only asking, not making a statement. It's a question I've been pondering since the ACA was put in place.


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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Canada--they have oil and we won't need to learn to speak French because we don't plan on listening to them anyway.
    Most Canadians have not bothered to learn French either and there is plenty of oil many of us would prefer to export to the US rather than China.

    Mitt had some very good ideas in his energy programs, I thought, but America has decided to Go Green in a very serious way. It must the Rousseauian, back to nature, noble savage, influence coming from people who can't live without electricity or energy but somehow believe it gets to their home quite naturally, without trees, birds or animals being at all disturbed.

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    You are basically claiming that those who voted for Obama have no sense is a bit arrogant of you. When people disagree with you, it is simply a disagreement, not a matter of who has more sense. You are not an expert on national health care and how it effects the economy. Many economists say the health care bill will lower health care costs and better the economy over all. People are being reactionary because their guy didn't win, so they want to punish their employes for it now rather than waiting to see how the health care bill will really effect their business.
    So it's been your experience that governments do best in keeping costs down and efficiency up?

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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    It is a misunderstanding of the benefits of the law as to why several are against it. There is a woman at my work that hates Obama and politics in general but yesterday she was explaining how United Healthcare sent her a thing in the mail saying she wouldn't have to pay co-pays anymore on preventive things such as Pap smears and breast exams come January 1st. In fact our insurance company strongly suggested she do it because if they find something early on the insurance pays for more. I have yet to receive the letter but she also said it said something about prostate exams. She thought it was United Healthcares doing of course it is the Affordable Healthcare Act. You have to take the good with the bad. The healthcare laws aren't perfect, but the net result is beneficial to everyone.
    That may be the case. However half the people in the country are against it. Whether or not its confusion is immaterial. Whether or not its benificial in immaterial. Fact is it was rammed down my throat. I didnt ask for it and I didnt need it. I have a HSA which I am perfectly happy with. My rates since this measure passed have gone up. I dont have bells and whistles in my plan to keep it as cheap as possible. After $5000 deductable everything is covered under my plan. 100% including medication with a 10,000,000 lifetime limit.
    My taxes are going up. My expences are going up. And my business is slowing down. I aint a happy camper.
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    You are basically claiming that those who voted for Obama have no sense is a bit arrogant of you. When people disagree with you, it is simply a disagreement, not a matter of who has more sense. You are not an expert on national health care and how it effects the economy. Many economists say the health care bill will lower health care costs and better the economy over all. People are being reactionary because their guy didn't win, so they want to punish their employes for it now rather than waiting to see how the health care bill will really effect their business.
    You don't know me. You do NOT know me. You have no clue where my areas of expertise lie, and to pretend that you do is the height of arrogance!
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's not going to happen.
    I am looking at Panama, Belize, Southern Baja Mexico, and seasteading. It is happening. For me its a matter of when I can.
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I understand how our healthcare came to rest on the shoulders of business, but, and this may be naive, why does it have to stay on business? Wouldn't health coverage, offered by the government and not employers, be a better thing?

    I ask this question somewhat timidly. It just seems that most 1st world countries don't saddle their country's businesses with providing health coverage and it's an advantage for them in competing against U.S. corporations. I'm only asking, not making a statement. It's a question I've been pondering since the ACA was put in place.


    *standing back to await a potential bashing*
    There is something to be said for a system that doesn't have to make a profit. But most state hospitals are abominable. No one likes the V A hospitals, but just let someone make noises about changing the system and those veterans organizations swing into action and prevent it. I'd say your post is a draw. 50:50. Hardly worth any bashing.
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    re: Papa John's CEO: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut [W:387]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    You don't know me. You do NOT know me. You have no clue where my areas of expertise lie, and to pretend that you do is the height of arrogance!
    You know it's going to go off the deep end when the sentence begins "You are basically claiming..."

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