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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm not saying that Petraeus should be pilloried for this. Obviously he had a tremendously distinguished career. He is only human. But dayum. He's the last person I would have expected to make such a mistake.
    It's always the choirboy that put the bag of burning dog poop on the priests doorstep. Meaning that his excessive effort to carry that image often causes an internal rebellion. I'd rather he said "Hey, I screwed up and I owe my wife and family an apology, or not. And if the President wants me replaced I'll step down". That's how you should roll if you're going to impress us as keeping it real. I can't stand the current PC crappola that passes as decency.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    About a week and a half ago I heard a talking head call this one on TV. Can't remember who or where I heard him but he was saying Petreaus was going to be the fall guy on this one.

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It's always the choirboy that put the bag of burning dog poop on the priests doorstep. Meaning that his excessive effort to carry that image often causes an internal rebellion. I'd rather he said "Hey, I screwed up and I owe my wife and family an apology, or not. And if the President wants me replaced I'll step down". That's how you should roll if you're going to impress us as keeping it real. I can't stand the current PC crappola that passes as decency.
    I'm sure there's more to the story, which will probably come out in the following days.

    I don't want to go too far into speculation, but I thought it was bizarre that Petraeus purportedly went to see a movie the night of the Benghazie attack. I'm thinking maybe he wasn't really at a movie....
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Picture of the other woman (man?) or it didn't happen.
    Good point. Who?

    OMG, not with Hillary?!

    (actually, I'd think that is awesome)

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm sure there's more to the story, which will probably come out in the following days.

    I don't want to go too far into speculation, but I thought it was bizarre that Petraeus purportedly went to see a movie the night of the Benghazie attack. I'm thinking maybe he wasn't really at a movie....
    Someone finally made the connection. He was out hotel humping instead of watching the store? That should get you fired. If that turns out to be even remotely true, then he's getting off easy. See how fast things can change a mind?
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm not saying that Petraeus should be pilloried for this. Obviously he had a tremendously distinguished career. He is only human. But dayum. He's the last person I would have expected to make such a mistake.
    Sure, but didn't they roll on those Secret Service agents who legally hired some party girls during off hours, and then yap about "it's not a culture issue", etc.? Um, yeah guys, it is a culture issue, but it's a normal culture issue. The only real issue is that you deny what everyday culture is like. Shouldn't crucify either. I'd rather you bug me to ensure national security, and let me hire some party girls, then to somewhat arbitrarily fire me for life and embarass me in some political charade of faux-nobility.

    Rep. Randy Forbes, R-Virginia, a senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, is one of those who think change is overdue -- and that Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan will have to go."I think it's time to put somebody else in there to make sure we're getting a different culture in the Secret Service," Forbes told CNN.
    At least one Republican thought firing was how to change male-genetic culture.

    I agree, it's kind of surprising that it came out. But not at all surprising it occured, occurs, or if we knew every case of it, it would be like half of everyone in the agencies.

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Someone finally made the connection. He was out hotel humping instead of watching the store? That should get you fired. If that turns out to be even remotely true, then he's getting off easy. See how fast things can change a mind?
    In the aftermath of the assault, questions have been raised within the administration and on Capitol Hill about Mr. Petraeus's role in responding to the attack. On Oct. 10, lawmakers grilled senior State Department officials about the attack. Some senior administration officials say they were surprised Mr. Petraeus went to that night's private Washington screening of the movie Argo, about a covert CIA operation in 1979 in Tehran.
    Administration Fingers Start Pointing at Petraeus for Benghazi - Global - The Atlantic Wire
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It's always the choirboy that put the bag of burning dog poop on the priests doorstep. Meaning that his excessive effort to carry that image often causes an internal rebellion. I'd rather he said "Hey, I screwed up and I owe my wife and family an apology, or not. And if the President wants me replaced I'll step down". That's how you should roll if you're going to impress us as keeping it real. I can't stand the current PC crappola that passes as decency.
    One thing you're forgetting is the wife and how she want this to play down. Do you not think she'd have a say?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    I wonder if any of this is trying to take the stink off the State Department? Keep an eye on how this unfolds but good read Adam.

    At one point during the consulate siege, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton telephoned the CIA director directly to seek assistance. Real-time intelligence from the field was scarce and some officials at State and the Pentagon were largely in the dark about the CIA's role..
    Uh huh, where was he?
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Let me get a clock on that....

    Yep, four minutes for the first conspiracy theory to be hatched.
    Since the right got their posteriors handed to them on a platter Tuesday night, their only hope is to take every bit of news they can find and twist and pervert it into some sort of administration scandal that they hope to use to their own partisan advantage.
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