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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What? The CIA exactly violated the orders to let the 30+ Americans and others there die and sent in what few guys the CIA could get in there, thus preventing those deaths replacing that with on 4, including the 2 Seals. Saving those lives but losing their own was in direct contradiction of orders. The attack and lack of response can't be blamed on the CIA, but the lack of those that were supposed to die not dying is.
    He's supposed to testify before Congress next week, but behind closed doors. I'd sure like to be a fly on the wall in that meeting, especially now that he has no career to protect.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yes, as we've established, getting impeached is no big deal.
    Yet, Clinton served out his term did he not?

    Clinton was not convicted at his impeachment trial as President of the United States. He was acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999.

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What I think is that a guy like Petraeus is NOT going to shame himself, destroy his 37-year-old marriage, and wreck his distinguished career to cover anyone's ass.
    Er hmm, Oliver North *cough*. When the POTUS asks, old generals fall on their swords. The faithful ones at least.

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    CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Picture of the other woman (man?) or it didn't happen.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What I think is that a guy like Petraeus is NOT going to shame himself, destroy his 37-year-old marriage, and wreck his distinguished career to cover anyone's ass.
    Good response but I think realistically you have to give people, even in sensitive positions at least one pass on personal issues. Expecting perfection or "don't get caught" from officials creates an atmosphere of dishonesty and *winks winks*. I don't live that way and don't expect it from others. Now if he's a brain surgeon doing surgery, saying "ooops" then **** can him.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Er hmm, Oliver North *cough*. When the POTUS asks, old generals fall on their swords. The faithful ones at least.
    Oliver North was a kook; Petraeus is not. Take off the tinfoil hat.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    The rules are different when you are affiliated with a spy agency - and in this case it is the guy heading it. There is a huge potential liability issue that arises as a result of an affair. Heck.. historically how many secrets and spies have been compromised due to not being able to resist the temptation of a bit of strange?

    The lapse of judgement and the affair itself is the shocking news, his resignation as a result is no surprise though.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Good response but I think realistically you have to give people, even in sensitive positions at least one pass on personal issues. Expecting perfection or "don't get caught" from officials creates an atmosphere of dishonesty and *winks winks*. I don't live that way and don't expect it from others. Now if he's a brain surgeon doing surgery, saying "ooops" then **** can him.
    I'm not saying that Petraeus should be pilloried for this. Obviously he had a tremendously distinguished career. He is only human. But dayum. He's the last person I would have expected to make such a mistake.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Oliver North was a kook; Petraeus is not. Take off the tinfoil hat.
    Really Adam? That's just absurd. Regardless of how miffed you are at the guy's politics after the fact, his service record is brillant and he flushed his career, his excellent reputation and many years of his life being the goat for his President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Really Adam? That's just absurd. Regardless of how miffed you are at the guy's politics after the fact, his service record is brillant and he flushed his career, his excellent reputation and many years of his life being the goat for his President.
    North flushed his career by participating in an illegal scheme that he knew to be illegal. He paid the price for it.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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