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    Re: CIA Director Resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Does it pique your interest at all that this particular affair has come to the surface? And at this particular time?
    If you read further down which I notice you did not include. I said questions YES. but it is not as simple as some seem to think.

    If the CIA op is to be believed (have no idea I don't work for the agency) then someone made this story surface. WHo? why?

    Alot of people of a particular political pursuation seem to think the WH is at fault for it all. Really?

    1. Why did the story surface if what the op said is true?
    2 Who made it come up
    3. Why is there not more focus on the members of Congress who knew as well (I am sure these include some Reps)

    If the op is correct, then do you seriously beleive that Obama is going to explode a grenade on himself. If so you are in serious need of professional help. So who?

    the next question is was this a politically motivated act or vendeta or sour grapes? Why

    Next why are the majority of people ignoring the Congressional involvement, that is those members of Congress (national security committee) who were told (According to a current CIA op on CNN) at the same time the White House was.

    Last question. Do you really think anyone is going to piss of the FBI by blowing an ongoing investigation? Right. Try it sometime and see what happens.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    He is not immune from being called. But my understanding is that his (Petraeus) options for responses are much different as a private citizen than if he were still Director. Current plans i believe are for the Deputy Director to testify on behalf of the CIA next week. That should be interesting....
    If you believe that the general is an honorable man and is a good person, which I do, I believe he will see all questions in the same light as if he was still the director and act accordingly. But you are right it will be interesting.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I am going to risk some points here... and a ban in the process.

    Your see... there is a difference.
    Petraeus HAD an affair.
    This is now public knowledge.

    Bush did not make public he knocked the towers down... and to think he might have is mental retardation at its highest.

    Now... you see the difference?
    Petraeus admitted to an affair. Some enemy of America could have blackmailed him for who knows what; and if he were as dishonest as say Bill Clinton he might have given up something vital to national security for these folks to keep quiet; say... allowing vital information about rocket performance land in the laps of the Communist Chinese (which did happen).

    Do you understand now?


    The facts are... Petraeus had an affair and could have been blackmailed by the Russians or Chinese. You don't think they have surveillance on these people or seek to entrap them if possible? I know after The Wall came down, there was a military base in south Germany; not a large or especially significant one... there were 17 Communist German agents trying to dig up anything they could.

    In a previous post about Iran and the attack on the drone you said something like "I hope..."... you DemSocialist seem to be a naive fool who thinks you can deal with enemy states like Iran through dialogue, and then cannot see the blatant risk Petraeus opened himself to.

    It is absolutely no wonder you believe in the tyranny of Socialism, though you don't seem to notice the cost of liberty, the tyranny such systems must employ.

    When that liberty is lost, it isn't lost temporarily... it is lost forever, or it takes generations to re-institute... just like doing away with the idiotic 55mph speed limit put into law by the Carter administration.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Somehow I doubt that's the true reason for his resignation
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why would you think that? A man shouldn't be head of the CIA with blackmail fodder on his resume, nor should he be head of the CIA while going through a possible divorce.
    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Seriously. If the POTUS can do it on tax payer time (in the oval office) and go on being President....it's certainly no excuse for the CIA director to quit.

    It's a cover story.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That is true, however the timing is suspect....The "blackmail" may not be so much from China, or Russia as a threat as much as from within.
    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I agree completely. I was a devout conservative Repub during Clinton's reign and thought he was way too friendly with China. But I never liked how the GOP, especially Gingrich (hypocrite) went after an impeachment (abuse of process) on an issue that was more between him and his wife than the Media and Congress.

    If Patraeus was unavailable for consultation and should've had at least a secure cell for that purpose of sending in reinforcements or talking to the State Department/Military, then he dropped the ball. Though if his direct attention were not necessary or responsible for the situation, then he should be reprimanded at best. His sex life is between him and his family, not for public scrutiny, unless it's completely off the wall, dangerous and extreme affecting his work.
    For god's sake people, the full explanation is in the thread not once, but twice. Read the ****ing thread. Since that is too much to ask: the woman he had an affair with got or was given access to his email account or emails and may have been able to access classified information she should not have seen because of it. This was discovered in a CIA investigation that has gone on for some time and was not specifically looking for this particular case.
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Your first sentence is what everyone is missing. He may not be chief anymore but that does not mean he is immune for testifying. And I believe the general will tell us the truth. He is an honorable man or have those of you who have said so and are yelling conspiracy now suddenly changed your minds for political reasons?
    Feinstein announced that he would not be requested to testify, due to his resignation...

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    For god's sake people, the full explanation is in the thread not once, but twice. Read the ****ing thread. Since that is too much to ask: the woman he had an affair with got or was given access to his email account or emails and may have been able to access classified information she should not have seen because of it. This was discovered in a CIA investigation that has gone on for some time and was not specifically looking for this particular case.
    She would have had to have had access to CIA facilities already for it even to be possible to see those emails. Those systems are not connected to the internet.

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    She would have had to have had access to CIA facilities already for it even to be possible to see those emails. Those systems are not connected to the internet.
    II am not sure if it happened while he was CIA director. I don't have more details but I did put a link to the story in the thread if you want to read what information is out there.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    For god's sake people, the full explanation is in the thread not once, but twice. Read the ****ing thread. Since that is too much to ask: the woman he had an affair with got or was given access to his email account or emails and may have been able to access classified information she should not have seen because of it. This was discovered in a CIA investigation that has gone on for some time and was not specifically looking for this particular case.
    FBI investigation, I think.

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    II am not sure if it happened while he was CIA director. I don't have more details but I did put a link to the story in the thread if you want to read what information is out there.
    Well, it's entirely possible that she could have had access to the facilities and not specific access to something she inadvertently read due to exposure to his accounts. This would not be that serious an infraction though, seeing how she was cleared to the level, just not to the specific information. That's an internal slap on the wrist, not something to be "resigned" over.

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Sad isn't it?
    I don't know. It's something that should be between he and his spouse. It's sad that it becomes important to others, It's none of their business.

    Just like the Clinton fiasco. If those on the right would have gone after Clinton on a national security basis, I would have agreed. Same situation here, Both men put themselves in the position of being bribed. THAT is simply criminal in light of their respective positions of power.

    This is a classic example of the reach of the religious right.

    The other take away is that the CIA and the FBI investigate one another. Spy versus Spy.

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    She would have had to have had access to CIA facilities already for it even to be possible to see those emails. Those systems are not connected to the internet.
    This piece by Ronald Kessler may help clarify. He says, "an FBI source says the investigation began when American intelligence mistook an email Petraeus had sent to his girlfriend as a reference to corruption."

    Kessler: FBI Investigation Led to Petraeus Resignation

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