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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    The questions were improper and should've never been asked,...
    Agreed.

    ... making them erroneous. How does what he did make them relevant in the "Violence Against Women Act"?
    Disagreed. Clintons VAWA made past behavior relevant where it had not been earlier.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    Of course they aren't. They are a joke. But it makes enough people nervous that they spill the beans. You ever been hooked up to a machine for two straight hours being told you can't move or take deep breaths and have the same questions asked over and over? It ain't fun. They even polygraphed my fiance when I requested permission to marry a foreign national. She was pissed at me for a week after her ordeal.

    I have to undergo it every 5 years and I always dread it.
    You are not completely accurate.

    Frequently Asked Questions | American Polygraph Association

    "Polygraph admissibility varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Some states ban it completely; others allow results by stipulation; and some allow polygraph evidence over objection."

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    "In 2007, polygraph testimony was admitted by stipulation in 19 states, and was subject to the discretion of the trial judge in federal court."

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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    "The threat from within" may have been, "General, you're either going to resign? Or have a heart attack on Sunday."
    With all the focus being directed at the General's pecker, am thinking an element in the story is being missed. Broadwell's credentials.

    Broadwell has more than a decade of military service and nearly two decades of work in counterterrorism and counterinsurgency. She is a PhD candidate at the University of London. Paula received an MPA degree from Harvard. She graduated with honors from the United States Military Academy. She lives with her husband and their two children in North Carolina.

    Paula Broadwell - About Paula Broadwell - Penguin Group (USA)


    This babe ain't Lois Lane just penning a quick autobiography.....


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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    You are not completely accurate.

    Frequently Asked Questions | American Polygraph Association

    "Polygraph admissibility varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Some states ban it completely; others allow results by stipulation; and some allow polygraph evidence over objection."

    Polygraph - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "In 2007, polygraph testimony was admitted by stipulation in 19 states, and was subject to the discretion of the trial judge in federal court."
    Interesting. It has been a long time since I have been subject to anything but federal law so i am likely behind the times. I would bet that those instances in which it is admissible are from the person confessing during the test. It is ridiculous that they should be admissible. I know for a fact they aren't always reliable.

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    Re: CIA Director Resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by Marie View Post
    It appears that the resignation was due to something more serious than the affair itself.

    Petraeus' biographer Paula Broadwell under FBI investigation over access to his email, law enforcement officials say - U.S. News
    From what I've heard on CNN the FBI originally got involved because of massive misuse of government e-mail by a high ranking CIA officer who turned out to be the general. They followed that until they got to the affair. The report also stated that since the affair was ongoing so was the investigation and so the FBI and probably the White House and National Security Committtie in Congress also held back (that means Congress knew too) until the investigation was over. The FBI frowns heavily on having thier investigations made public before they are over.

    CNN also interviewed a CIA op (retired) and he said this type of stuff (affairs) went on all the time with high ranking officers including the director and never saw daylight they were handled either in house or quietly dispensed with. "This is the first time in my 25 years with the agency that anything like this has come to the surface".

    Questions - Yes. Conspiracy - NO not unless you want to include the members of Congress who were also told and kept quiet. Only a fool would blow an ongoing investigation by the FBi by taking it public.

    More hands in this pie than meet the eye.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    "The threat from within" may have been, "General, you're either going to resign? Or have a heart attack on Sunday."
    Wag the dog right?
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    Re: CIA Director Resigns

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    CNN also interviewed a CIA op (retired) and he said this type of stuff (affairs) went on all the time with high ranking officers including the director and never saw daylight they were handled either in house or quietly dispensed with. "This is the first time in my 25 years with the agency that anything like this has come to the surface".
    Does it pique your interest at all that this particular affair has come to the surface? And at this particular time?
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Congress could decide to call him as a witness. No problem there.

    I'm convinced that powerful men can't keep it in their pants.
    Your first sentence is what everyone is missing. He may not be chief anymore but that does not mean he is immune for testifying. And I believe the general will tell us the truth. He is an honorable man or have those of you who have said so and are yelling conspiracy now suddenly changed your minds for political reasons?
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Actually the impeachment came about because Clinton lied under oath in a court of law, and perjury was a capital offensse up until about a century and a half ago. The irony is that the questions Clinton was asked had been considered illegitimate by the courts until Clinton himself proudly signed a "ViolenceAgainst Women Act" that made the questions relevant. And thus was Clinton one of the early (and more spectacular) victims of his own hubris.
    That at least is accurate.
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    Re: CIA director Petraeus resigns over affair

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Your first sentence is what everyone is missing. He may not be chief anymore but that does not mean he is immune for testifying. And I believe the general will tell us the truth. He is an honorable man or have those of you who have said so and are yelling conspiracy now suddenly changed your minds for political reasons?
    He is not immune from being called. But my understanding is that his (Petraeus) options for responses are much different as a private citizen than if he were still Director. Current plans i believe are for the Deputy Director to testify on behalf of the CIA next week. That should be interesting....


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