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    Re: Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

    Damn lazy Germans dragging the hard-working Greeks' economy down-- that is clearly what is happening

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    Re: Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The Greeks are primarily the victims of the Euro and the dumb notion that you can have a unified currency without a unified government. In fact the Greeks aren't lazy and it isn't an out-of-control socialist state. In fact the Greeks work longer hours than the Germans. Social expenditure as a percentage of GDP is lower in Greece than it is in Sweden or Germany. They have problems, but the idea that it was caused by socialism is nonsense.
    Yes, to say that a socialist country with a socialist government that follows socialist policies is crumbling due to the failure of socialism would be nonsense....Surely there must be some other cause. Bush perhaps?

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    Re: Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Yes, to say that a socialist country with a socialist government that follows socialist policies is crumbling due to the failure of socialism would be nonsense....Surely there must be some other cause. Bush perhaps?
    ... Just so you know.... The PASOK have never been involved in separating religion/government, they don't like NATO or the Euro, they support a pretty economically liberal policies like privatization of major government functions and essentially did what many in the GOP have advocated for, spreading out taxation to the lower classes or reducing it for many (within the last 10-15 years). The party as a whole has pretty much swung to the right side on most economic issues within the last 20 years without much issue.

    Furthermore, in Greek politics, they are SOCIAL DEMOCRATS, not SOCIALISTS, much like in Canada but with no social issues involved. They don't advocate state ownership or for that matter proletariat ownership. Au contraire, they've actually been supporting neo-liberal policies for many years now.

    In short: If PASOK were American, they'd be Pauligans.
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    Re: Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

    Wow, I gotta admit, all the liberals jumping to defend Greece on it's socialism is a little surprising.... I was hoping the left wasn't so obviously bent on socialism.

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    Re: Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

    I'll take the liberty of fixing your post for you:

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Wow, I gotta admit, all the people with some culture jumping in to dispute your uneducated assumption surprised me.
    I'm not sure why you're surprised about being uninformed about another country's politics. Your learn clearly states Libertarian. You hardly understand the politics of your own country.
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    Re: Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
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    This is what happens when Socialist promises and their PONZI/MADOFF schemes collapse.

    Isn't socialism wonderful. All those meaningless promises that create misery for the masses.

    Electing idiots who make moronic promises... eventually has consequences.
    You obviously dont understand what has happened in Greece and in your own country

    THe Global financial crisis is a BANKING crisis - not a political one

    This is why the so called US capitalist system failed

    But as we all know the US is a fascist corpocracy - the ultimate tyranny

    Tell me something

    WHy did the US government nationalise the US auto industry? Sounds like socialistic corporate welfare to me

    lol

    Iceland decided to have a vote on whether to bail out the banks - and 95% decided that the banks shoudlnt receive tax payer bail outs

    They then jailed the corporate and banking CEOs as well as the corrupt politicians and officials who were involved

    Iceland is now doing very well

    This is exactly what Greece, Ireland, Italy, the USA and everybody else should have done.

    Youre defending the crooks - an illness that has no cure I am afraid

    Good luck with the treatment

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    Re: Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Wow, I gotta admit, all the liberals jumping to defend Greece on it's socialism is a little surprising.... I was hoping the left wasn't so obviously bent on socialism.
    The US tax payer provided trillions under Bush and Obama to bail out the Wall street crooks, banksters and corporate failures

    THis sounds very much like socialistic corporate welfare doesnt it folks

    The US financial crisis was supposedly due to a housing loan bubble that burst. Well you could have cleared ALL the housing loans with about 10% of the what the total bail out money was for the corporate fraudsters. Instead, you provided 10 times the amount in bail outs and gave it to the corporate criminals who caused the crisis in the first place. As well as getting the bail outs, they also received the titles to all the homes and dumped the home borrowers on the street. The perfect crime

    In Iceland they actually had a democratic vote, and decided that the banks shouldnt receive one cent in bail outs

    The banksters were charged with financial fraud and missconduct and jailed and Iceland is far better off

    had enough?

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    Re: Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

    Interesting how only the Korean workers can claim to put in more working hours than Greek workers

    Well well well, look what we have here - the German and French workers are lagging behind - they dont seem to be putting in their fair share of work hours compared to everyone else. Even the workers in the USA are working harder than the Germans and French

    Always beware of what the spin doctors throw at you in the mass media - obviously they are painting a picture of lazy Greeks, Irish, Italians and Spaniards etc whilst heralding the work ethic of the classic German and French worker. Looks like they are trying to disguise what the REAL problem is in some of these countries. We all know what that is dont we.

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    Re: Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... Just so you know.... The PASOK have never been involved in separating religion/government, they don't like NATO or the Euro, they support a pretty economically liberal policies like privatization of major government functions and essentially did what many in the GOP have advocated for, spreading out taxation to the lower classes or reducing it for many (within the last 10-15 years). The party as a whole has pretty much swung to the right side on most economic issues within the last 20 years without much issue.

    Furthermore, in Greek politics, they are SOCIAL DEMOCRATS, not SOCIALISTS, much like in Canada but with no social issues involved. They don't advocate state ownership or for that matter proletariat ownership. Au contraire, they've actually been supporting neo-liberal policies for many years now.

    In short: If PASOK were American, they'd be Pauligans.
    PASOK: Panhellenic Socialist Movement. ( I know, but they are not socialist; just like national socialists arent soicalists and the UNion of Soviet Socialist republics wasnt socialist. Nobody bad is ever a socialist) And the reason they are privatizing and selling government property and 'supporting neo-liberal policies' is because socialism has left them bankrupt.

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    Re: Greek government defies protests to approve more austerity

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    PASOK: Panhellenic Socialist Movement. ( I know, but they are not socialist; just like national socialists arent soicalists and the UNion of Soviet Socialist republics wasnt socialist. Nobody bad is ever a socialist) And the reason they are privatizing and selling government property and 'supporting neo-liberal policies' is because socialism has left them bankrupt.
    Incorrect analysis

    Corporate Capitalism has left everyone broke except for the fascists who own the tyrannical slave based system

    Dont you remember all trillions the US handed out as corporate welfare to the banksters who caused the crisis in the first place? You seem to approve of socialistic welfare for the RICH only - you do realise what sort of person that makes you?

    Jesus was a socialist and he was supposedly the son of god - surely you are not suggesting that Christ supports capitalism

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