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    Re: In-state Tuition for Illegal Immigrants?

    Because illegals ****ing pay taxes too - especially those in Maryland where most of that income is deducted right off of your payroll. They work and contribute to their local economies and their local communities in Maryland more than any out-of-state resident does. They are Marylanders in all but the formal sense. And the bill attaches tons of conditions and restrictions on who qualifies and who doesn't.

    And I for one am proud to say that I'm one of the people who voted to pass this referendum.
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    Re: In-state Tuition for Illegal Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Then why did you post a question that you already knew the answer to? Seems kind of silly doesn't it?
    What is the answer?

    Giving special privileges to illegal immigrants that you do not afford to actual citizens of this country doesn't make a lick of sense.
    Come on, just spell it out instead of beating around the bush. What rights do you think are being granted to illegal immigrants who are residents of Maryland, which aren't also available to US citizens who are residents of Maryland? This discussion will be a lot more simple if you can just provide a clear answer to that question.

    Does the illegal immigrant population constitute the "state full" term? I've just got this crazy notion that our government should be focusing on our citizens instead of someone else's.
    Take it up with the federal government. All Maryland can do is decide how it wants to handle its state residents (regardless of their citizenship status). And apparently they decided that providing their residents with affordable education is a good thing. Go figure.
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    Re: In-state Tuition for Illegal Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Because illegals ****ing pay taxes too - especially those in Maryland where most of that income is deducted right off of your payroll.
    Most illegals work under the table and work in law wage jobs that don't pay enough for them to qualify paying federal taxes.So how are they paying income taxes?
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    Re: In-state Tuition for Illegal Immigrants?

    Oh no, Maryland better watch out! Mexican immigrants are going to travel by the truckload 2000 miles to go to college. Come on, grow up. They still have to pay for it.
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    Re: In-state Tuition for Illegal Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm a fan of just about all of the referendums passed in the recent election, but I am absolutely baffled by one in Maryland:

    The Maryland In-State Tuition Referendum, which allows illegal immigrants the ability to pay in-state tuition at Maryland colleges.

    Why is it that we are trying to afford illegal immigrants benefits that citizens are denied?
    Because illegals vote, too you know. Since they are voters, you have pander to them, or you will be out of a job as a politician.

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    Re: In-state Tuition for Illegal Immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by helix2048 View Post
    Oh no, Maryland better watch out! Mexican immigrants are going to travel by the truckload 2000 miles to go to college. Come on, grow up. They still have to pay for it.
    And they aren't going to go to college when they can get free **** anyway.

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    Re: In-state Tuition for Illegal Immigrants?

    it makes it easier to get a visa to avoid deportation to be in college and they likely had no choice in coming here.

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    Re: In-state Tuition for Illegal Immigrants?

    It's a red herring for liberals to get votes from the Mexicans. Most Mexicans can't get out of high school, let alone go on to college. They like Community Colleges though, the 13th grade, but that's where it ends. Additionally, no one is going to be able to meet the requirement of proving they have paid taxes the previous three years before enrolling to quickly become a brain surgeon.

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    Re: In-state Tuition for Illegal Immigrants?

    I think most here are missing the point, the states do not subsidize the cost of education
    for their residence out of kindness, but for the increase in tax revenue.
    I was on a collage advisory board for over 5 years in the early 90s.
    At that point in time the state could expect about $33 back for each dollar spent on higher ed.
    A large percent of college graduates stay in the state where they graduated, they buy
    houses, cars, stuff, eat out, ect, and pay lots of taxes.
    So from the states cost model, immigration status is not important.

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    Re: In-state Tuition for Illegal Immigrants?

    I've gone back and forth on this issue.

    Illegal residents who were transported into the country as minors by their parents are not the illegal residents I'm interested in targeting first and foremost for deportation, fines, or penalties. A minor child in any practical situation has no choice but to follow the lead of their parents or guardians, and most children of illegal aliens end up being law-abiding, contributing members of society.

    That said, I don't think we should give them ANY incentives granted to legal citizens unless some sort of mandatory path-to-citizenship program is part of said offerings. In-state tuition should go first and foremost to legal qualifying residents. Illegal residents seeking same should be simultaneously enrolled in citizenship programs that will culminate in them becoming legal citizens before graduation. I feel it is paramount to ensuring that educated immigrant children are actually able to contribute financially without putting hiring companies at risk of violating federal law, and ensuring that the money spent on them is not "wasted" because they end up taking under-the-table positions or breaking the law by committing ID fraud.
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