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Puerto Rico Votes on US Ties

just so long as we do not have to add to the interstate highway system to get there

That reminds me of how the people drive on the sidewalks in Puerto Rico. I have no idea why it reminds me of that though. :D
 
I am relaxed :) was just pointing out that we both come from countries with colonies and admit it... unlike some other people /grin. Now if we could get some sun here, I would be relaxed and happy as well!.. damn rain!

you are right, puerto rico is a colony
but colonization has acquired a negative connotation that is not always deserved

the election choice included independence, and that option was not selected
so, the citizens of PR deserve to have their request for statehood considered (and imo approved) so they, too can enjoy being federal taxpayers
the folks of PR will then pine for a return to colonial status in short order
 
you are right, puerto rico is a colony
but colonization has acquired a negative connotation that is not always deserved

Actually it is deserved... 50+ years ago. Now days 99% of colonies are selfruled and the old methods of running colonies are long gone.. but that does not change the fact they are still a colony. Take Gibraltar. They elected their own representatives and even set their own taxes, but the ultimate rule of law still lies in Westminster, London, United Kingdom. The same principle goes for Greenland and Puerto Rico and Guam. Does not change the fact that they are colonies.

the election choice included independence, and that option was not selected

Hehe.. at least they got the choice. Places like Gibraltar will never ever get that choice.
 
What does that have to do with anything?!

You will need to do your own thinking and generate your own conclusions

I ceased spoon feeding in 1997
 
You will need to do your own thinking and generate your own conclusions

I ceased spoon feeding in 1997

I will, and here is my conclusion.

Here is your answer:

Average IQ in US States

Average IQ of Countries
(This one has Puerto Rico, under the America heading.)

Per these, the US state with the lowest average IQ is Mississippi at 94.2. Puerto Rico sits at around 84.

What I think is that you rationalise a possible and indeed lower average IQ of Puerto Ricans as inferior and a reason to disallow them entry into the Union. But may I turn you to Exhibit B:

Global IQ
Purple is highest, Red is lowest.

Global GDP per capita
Dark Red is highest, Light Yellow is lowest.

See a trend? While not an exact, it can easily be seen that countries with lower GDP per capitas have a typically lower IQ. Puerto Rico has a GDP per capita much lower than that of Mississippi, or even the whole US for that matter.

You bringing up the average IQ of a nation as an argument against them is indecent and foul, and inherently Social-Darwinist and Supremacist. Not only this but your response to my question was unfounded and rude. You want me to form my own opinion, here it is, you're a racist man who believes that a possible IQ deficiency (which was indeed implyed by your question) in the Puerto Rican people due to their economic condition warrants them not becoming full American citizens through Puerto Rico becoming a state.
 
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So you are telling me, that the anti-Latino anti-immigration borderline racist Tea Party will be all for allowing more Latinos in as full citizens.. Latinos that speak Spanish as their main language and not English... Latinos that most likely will back the Democratic party.... that the Tea Party would be all for letting these people to become full members of American society?


Pete when are you going to stop talking out your ass and engage your brain?



" anti-Latino anti-immigration borderline racist Tea Party" is just a flat out lie on your part. They aren't anti latino,
anti immigration, they are anti "illegal" immigration. there is a difference you know ... or do you not understand what
"illegal" means.

While you are on your knees sucking up to every liberal thing you read, contrary to what you think, being against what is still
illegal in this country, that you don't belong to, doesn't make you a racist.
 
you are right, puerto rico is a colony
but colonization has acquired a negative connotation that is not always deserved

the election choice included independence, and that option was not selected
so, the citizens of PR deserve to have their request for statehood considered (and imo approved) so they, too can enjoy being federal taxpayers
the folks of PR will then pine for a return to colonial status in short order

You put a major league team of some sport in PR and then they'll never want to leave.
 
Yeah give California to Mexico we get rid of the most debt ridden state, in the union.

You just gave away the 5th largest economy in the world and the largest farming state in the union. Nice going there.
 
You just gave away the 5th largest economy in the world and the largest farming state in the union. Nice going there.
9th as of the beginning of this calendar year, but a rather incredible statistic nonetheless.
 
I will, and here is my conclusion.

Here is your answer:

Average IQ in US States

Average IQ of Countries
(This one has Puerto Rico, under the America heading.)

Per these, the US state with the lowest average IQ is Mississippi at 94.2. Puerto Rico sits at around 84.

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Are you aware that about 95% of the Nobel prize winners from the USA were either born outide the US or their parents immigrated to the US?

Are you also aware that if you limit the average IQ score in the USA to people who's parents were actually born in the US, the average IQ level of the US as a whole is very similar to that of other nations such as Puerto Rico?

It appears that whatever advantage the US has in IQ is actually imported or taken from other nations.

(incidentally, an average IQ of 94 is still below the average standard of 100)
 
If it is, I will switch parties. Not even kidding. That line of thinking is just so far off, I can't even begin to tell you.

That was proven pretty conclusively in yesterday's election. You can believe that particular fact will be the subject of an enormous amount of discussion in the next four years.
 
As an immigrant, I'll say: present company included. :lol:

You're welcome, America, for gracing you with my superior intellect.

Are you aware that about 95% of the Nobel prize winners from the USA were either born outide the US or their parents immigrated to the US?

Are you also aware that if you limit the average IQ score in the USA to people who's parents were actually born in the US, the average IQ level of the US as a whole is very similar to that of other nations such as Puerto Rico?

It appears that whatever advantage the US has in IQ is actually imported or taken from other nations.

(incidentally, an average IQ of 94 is still below the average standard of 100)
 
So you are telling me, that the anti-Latino anti-immigration borderline racist Tea Party will be all for allowing more Latinos in as full citizens.. Latinos that speak Spanish as their main language and not English... Latinos that most likely will back the Democratic party.... that the Tea Party would be all for letting these people to become full members of American society?

Your post is built upon a false premise.
 
As an immigrant, I'll say: present company included. :lol:

You're welcome, America, for gracing you with my superior intellect.

...and it is fortunate for the USA that academic and intellectual immigrants took the Corporate and state dollar that the US dangled in front of their noses, because without it the average IQ in the US would be even further down the list - at the moment the USA is ranked 23 in the world

The top 4 countries in the world with respect to IQ are Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan (all Asian nations)

Approximately 55% of all PhD candidates in the USA today are students from other nations that have come to the US to study

This places the US is a very precarious position, because over the past decade many of these students are returning to their home countries instead of staying in the USA and working for the Corporates or the Pentagon etc

The decay of the USA will initially occur from within - it has happened before throughout history

And the empires of the past are always in a state of denial right up till the end when the walls are collapsing all around it.

If you heard Obama's victory speach you will have noticed how he emphasised the phrase "WE ARE LIVING IN THE WORLDS GREATEST NATION"

(sorry to say Mr Obama - but the 1950s are long gone in the USA)
 
Indeed. To walk among the peons...

It's lonely at the top, but at least I get a good view of the rest of you.

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...and it is fortunate for the USA that academic and intellectual immigrants took the Corporate and state dollar that the US dangled in front of their noses, because without it the average IQ in the US would be even further down the list - at the moment the USA is ranked 23 in the world

The top 4 countries in the world with respect to IQ are Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan (all Asian nations)

Approximately 55% of all PhD candidates in the USA today are students from other nations that have come to the US to study

This places the US is a very precarious position, because over the past decade many of these students are returning to their home countries instead of staying in the USA and working for the Corporates or the Pentagon etc

The decay of the USA will initially occur from within - it has happened before throughout history

And the empires of the past are always in a state of denial right up till the end when the walls are collapsing all around it.

If you heard Obama's victory speach you will have noticed how he emphasised the phrase "WE ARE LIVING IN THE WORLDS GREATEST NATION"

(sorry to say Mr Obama - but the 1950s are long gone in the USA)
 
...and it is fortunate for the USA that academic and intellectual immigrants took the Corporate and state dollar that the US dangled in front of their noses, because without it the average IQ in the US would be even further down the list - at the moment the USA is ranked 23 in the world

The top 4 countries in the world with respect to IQ are Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan (all Asian nations)

Approximately 55% of all PhD candidates in the USA today are students from other nations that have come to the US to study

This places the US is a very precarious position, because over the past decade many of these students are returning to their home countries instead of staying in the USA and working for the Corporates or the Pentagon etc

The decay of the USA will initially occur from within - it has happened before throughout history

And the empires of the past are always in a state of denial right up till the end when the walls are collapsing all around it.

If you heard Obama's victory speach you will have noticed how he emphasised the phrase "WE ARE LIVING IN THE WORLDS GREATEST NATION"

(sorry to say Mr Obama - but the 1950s are long gone in the USA)

people-are-jealous-of-america.jpg
haters gonna hate ;)

Indeed. To walk among the peons...

It's lonely at the top, but at least I get a good view of the rest of you.

they say it's lonely at the top, in whatever you do:
:shock:
 
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haters gonna hate ;)



they say it's lonely at the top, in whatever you do:
:shock:


The US didnt have a space and major rocket program after WW2


You needed to recruit ex-Nazi and was criminals like Von Braun to set up your rocket and space program

Average IQ in China is now ranked 12th in the world and they have over 1 billion people.

The average IQ in the USA has dropped to about 94 and is ranked 23rd in the world.

The most overweight nation on the planet that comsumes 85% of the pharmaceucital drugs produced in the world (not bad for a nation that makes up only 5% of the total world population)

Also produces 1/3 of the worlds waste and pollution whilst cosuming about 30% of the worlds resources and energy

Not sustainable - the end is near

Prepare your survival kits
 
The US didnt have a space and major rocket program after WW2


You needed to recruit ex-Nazi and was criminals like Von Braun to set up your rocket and space program

Average IQ in China is now ranked 12th in the world and they have over 1 billion people.

The average IQ in the USA has dropped to about 94 and is ranked 23rd in the world.

The most overweight nation on the planet that comsumes 85% of the pharmaceucital drugs produced in the world (not bad for a nation that makes up only 5% of the total world population)

Also produces 1/3 of the worlds waste and pollution whilst cosuming about 30% of the worlds resources and energy

Not sustainable - the end is near

Prepare your survival kits

yes, america is doomed, abandon ship.
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yes, america is doomed, abandon ship.
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leads in military related areas - and even in these areas the USA is falling behind

anything to do with killing, violence and weapons - youre the man

but the end is near

You need to update your flag - it has changed right under your nose

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Are you aware that about 95% of the Nobel prize winners from the USA were either born outide the US or their parents immigrated to the US?

Are you also aware that if you limit the average IQ score in the USA to people who's parents were actually born in the US, the average IQ level of the US as a whole is very similar to that of other nations such as Puerto Rico?

It appears that whatever advantage the US has in IQ is actually imported or taken from other nations.

(incidentally, an average IQ of 94 is still below the average standard of 100)

You've completely missed the entire point if my post.

I'll play the same card as you and tell you to re-read it an figure it out yourself. I don't spoon feed.
 
You've completely missed the entire point if my post.

I'll play the same card as you and tell you to re-read it an figure it out yourself. I don't spoon feed.

you're stealing my lines now?

(thats worse than being spoon fed)
 
I don't think this will ever happen.
 
you're stealing my lines now?

(thats worse than being spoon fed)

Never mind I ever asked you to make an intelligent rebuttal to my post earlier.
 
Never mind I ever asked you to make an intelligent rebuttal to my post earlier.

I was specifically advised by authorities on this forum that intelligence is NOT a prerequisite, I repeat is NOT a prerequisite for participants in engaging in debate.

My survey and analysis of online political debate is based upon participants possessing a negative IQ level

You are now claiming that all my work thus far is totally wasted?
 
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