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    Re: Puerto Rico Votes on US Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Its a fact... they are a colony as long they dont have all the rights and privileges of a citizen and their island is equal to the other areas of the US. I will be very happy when the US stops to be a colonial power
    The people of Puerto Rico chose to trade certain voting rights in return for certain tax advantages. Calling that colonialism is an insult to the suffering of those under real colonialism, of which a Spaniard should be intimately familiar. Self Determination is the basic principle against tyranny and that has been upheld in Puerto Rico.

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    Re: Puerto Rico Votes on US Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Wrong. The Republican Party is going to cut the Mitt Romney's of the world loose. We don't win when we elect moderates like Romney and McCain. We only win when we elect guys like Bush.
    So they're only going to nominate people like Arkin, Mourdock, Christine O'Donnell (the non-witch) and Orly Taitz? The Democrats love that strategy.

    The moderates ARE the Republican Party. If it's not Conservative enough, the TP should form their own party.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Puerto Rico Votes on US Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    When Canada wants to do that, it's fine with me. Everytime the seperatists in Quebec make noise, the Atlantic provinces talk about joining the US anyway.
    Says who? I'm from the maritimes and no one I know back home has ever been in favor of joining the US.

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    Re: Puerto Rico Votes on US Ties

    Every time the Democrats win a big election, you guys wish for the same thing... for the Republicans to move more toward the center. And every time, what happens? We move more to the right.

    You punched us in the face by shoving Obama down our throats, and now you're offering peace. Offer not accepted.

    If you want to work with Republicans, you should have nominated a moderate Democrat and not Obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So they're only going to nominate people like Arkin, Mourdock, Christine O'Donnell (the non-witch) and Orly Taitz? The Democrats love that strategy.

    The moderates ARE the Republican Party. If it's not Conservative enough, the TP should form their own party.

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    Re: Puerto Rico Votes on US Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    51 is an uneven number and makes me nervous. I like even numbers. Maybe we can let Canada be the 52 state.
    Just look at it this way... it's an even number if you start counting from 1 instead of 0.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Puerto Rico Votes on US Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Every time the Democrats win a big election, you guys wish for the same thing... for the Republicans to move more toward the center. And every time, what happens? We move more to the right.

    You punched us in the face by shoving Obama down our throats, and now you're offering peace. Offer not accepted.

    If you want to work with Republicans, you should have nominated a moderate Democrat and not Obama.
    Ummm...OK. I'm not a Democrat. Just because I think the TP are whackos doesn't mean I want to fellate Obama. I didn't even vote for the guy.

    Your lean is "Moderate" and here you are condemning the GOP for being too moderate... Something doesn't add up.

    If the Republican Party would give up the fantasy that we're "going back" to some idealized version of 1955 (which never existed) and entered the 21st Century, I might be one.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Puerto Rico Votes on US Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If I was in congress the only way I would vote for it is if it came with an end to the electoral college. Any other deal is a non starter. I see nothing to gain from a blue state with seven electoral votes.

    The system already allows you to lose the popular vote and the majority of the states and still win. There is nothing to gain from making that worse.

    On second thought, I would come around if there is a cap at four per state. That should be easier to deal with.
    So you are opposed simply for electorally it might hurt your party some... and nothing else. Interesting way to go about making policies in this world.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    I am a moderate. Mitt Romney was a moderate. Obama is WAY to the right of me. I believe my lean will change now to be more right-wing, because I believe half this country is friggin nuts.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Ummm...OK. I'm not a Democrat. Just because I think the TP are whackos doesn't mean I want to fellate Obama. I didn't even vote for the guy.

    Your lean is "Moderate" and here you are condemning the GOP for being too moderate... Something doesn't add up.

    If the Republican Party would give up the fantasy that we're "going back" to some idealized version of 1955 (which never existed) and entered the 21st Century, I might be one.

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    Re: Puerto Rico Votes on US Ties

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I am a moderate. Mitt Romney was a moderate. Obama is WAY to the right of me. I believe my lean will change now to be more right-wing, because I believe half this country is friggin nuts.
    You are not moderate. People are just the worst at describing who they are. Most everyone thinks or would describe themselves as the center.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    And Obama is a socialist.

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    You are not moderate. People are just the worst at describing who they are. Most everyone thinks or would describe themselves as the center.

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