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First Openly Gay Senator Elected

Rainman05 said:
This may make me seem like a horrible, horrible person but I will say it.

Tammy? Really? Tammy beat Tommy in the elections and not Tammy gets to go Congress. :D

I only find it hilarious because in all the movies, Tammy is usually the name a woman dancer gets...

Also, this video from the onion.



Other than that, I have no problem with her sexuality. If the good people of wisconsin saw her fit to represent them then she must really be an impressive lady. A lady named Tammy :))

If anyone else is named Tammy in the DP forum, please don't hate it. I only find it amusing because of my lack of contact with... Tammies around the world :))
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Making fun of someone's name is stereotyping. So common, but not really smart.
 
Rainman05 said:
I only find it hilarious because in all the movies, Tammy is usually the name a woman dancer gets...
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:mad:

Two of my best IT administrators are named Tammy. Its a perfectly fine name ...
 
spud_meister said:
Yeah, but she's a pretty **** PM, I wouldn't recommend it.
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so there seems to be 3 main prerequisite lies that a US presidents must uphold in order to be allowed to run for Corporate Office in the USA

1. Must lie about supporting and defending freedom and democracy
2. Must lie about believing in a Christian God and pushing Christian ethics and morals
3. Must lie about valuing World Peace and harmony

(and of course a US president must be an obedient fascist Corporate Puppet - which Obama has carried forward magnificently - hard to tell where Obamas arse starts and where Bush's nose begins to tell you the truth)
 
Paul Austin said:
Not being Australian it wasnt my position to comment in that regard but I dont care what sex they are, what theyre relationship status is, what their sexuality is, or whether they can cut hair, I am kind of more interested in if they can do the job or not.
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...and what Job does a US presidential corporate puppet have?

Prop up the fascist Corpocracy?

Make sure wars are funded in the right places, where US corporations need them to be.

Make sure democracy doesnt eventuate - not only in the USA but also anywhere else in the world.

Be a good obedient Corporatised Puppet clown
 
Klown said:
...and
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I ignored the rest because a) Im not American (Im sorry your baiting was wasted) & b) No matter what nationality I was the fact that I dont vote based on what someone has in their pants, or whos pants they want to get into, doesnt lead to the fantasy conclusions you constructed.
 
Paul Austin said:
I ignored the rest because a) Im not American (Im sorry your baiting was wasted) & b) No matter what nationality I was the fact that I dont vote based on what someone has in their pants, or whos pants they want to get into, doesnt lead to the fantasy conclusions you constructed.
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The crucial foundational pillar of a genuine Democratic society is the content of one's pants
 
Klown said:
name them please
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You want me to name every aetheist politician past & present? What a ridiculous demand considering a) Not everyone publicises their beliefs b) the massive volume we're talking about, & c) I dont make a habit of studying the historical belief structure of political figures, but what I will do is give you a couple of examples that Im aware of (one from each side).

Charles Beaird - A prominent Republican, well known for his seconding speech at the 1956 RNC

Peter Stark - A Democrat, who is one of the most senior members of congress (or was, someone would have to tell me if he's still serving)

& just because Im kind that way Ill throw in Jesse Ventura for free, because its always good to add a tights wearing wrestler to every political list.
 
Klown said:
The crucial foundational pillar of a genuine Democratic society is the content of one's pants
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I think youre confusing a genuine democratic society with incontinence, but thats a common error for many people in some places
 
People are missing the point here, she wasn't elected because of her sexuality, the fact that this is historic is because this is the first time an openly gay woman has been able to run on her beliefs, and have the voters vote her in because they agreed with her beliefs and the fact that she is gay did not hinder her ability to successfully run for office. It is a sign of social progress and should be celebrated as such.
 
Your Star said:
It is a sign of social progress and should be celebrated as such.
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I think many are missing the point that it will be a sign of real social progress when we reach the point where the majority answer "So what?"

To me this isnt an issue & to me it shouldnt be an issue, but the fact that some are trying to make it an issue (from any side) means theres a way to go before theres real social progress.
 
Your Star said:
People are missing the point here, she wasn't elected because of her sexuality, the fact that this is historic is because this is the first time an openly gay woman has been able to run on her beliefs, and have the voters vote her in because they agreed with her beliefs and the fact that she is gay did not hinder her ability to successfully run for office. It is a sign of social progress and should be celebrated as such.
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.....yeah either that or she rode Obama's coattails since she had the requisite party identification. I guess we will know in 6 years when she will have to win in an off-year election.
 
Paul Austin said:
I think many are missing the point that it will be a sign of real social progress when we reach the point where the majority answer "So what?"

To me this isnt an issue & to me it shouldnt be an issue, but the fact that some are trying to make it an issue (from any side) means theres a way to go before theres real social progress.
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But we don't get to the "So what?" points without these moments, these moments are pathways to true equality.
 
Paul Austin said:
You want me to name every aetheist politician past & present? What a ridiculous demand considering a) Not everyone publicises their beliefs b) the massive volume we're talking about, & c) I dont make a habit of studying the historical belief structure of political figures, but what I will do is give you a couple of examples that Im aware of (one from each side).

Charles Beaird - A prominent Republican, well known for his seconding speech at the 1956 RNC

Peter Stark - A Democrat, who is one of the most senior members of congress (or was, someone would have to tell me if he's still serving)

& just because Im kind that way Ill throw in Jesse Ventura for free, because its always good to add a tights wearing wrestler to every political list.
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....very well, name just a few dozen

(didnt know that about Jesse - thanks for that one)
 
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Paul Austin said:
I think youre confusing a genuine democratic society with incontinence, but thats a common error for many people in some places
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...that may be the case, but more importantly didnt Peter Stark play drums in the Beetles?
 
Your Star said:
But we don't get to the "So what?" points without these moments
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I disagree, we dont get to "so what?" until we let go of these moments.

There will always be moments like this, moments to hang on to, & they wont stop until we reach "So what?" (of course at that point they will still continue but we wont be looking anymore).
 
Paul Austin said:
I disagree, we dont get to "so what?" until we let go of these moments.

There will always be moments like this, moments to hang on to, & they wont stop until we reach "So what?" (of course at that point they will still continue but we wont be looking anymore).
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The thing is that LGBT people in this country are still not treated equally under the law, so we can't really ignore these moments otherwise we won't ever get progress.
 
Your Star said:
The thing is that LGBT people in this country are still not treated equally under the law, so we can't really ignore these moments otherwise we won't ever get progress.
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One doesnt follow the other, in fact it can be argued that one precludes the other.
 
Klown said:
2. Must lie about believing in a Christian God and pushing Christian ethics and morals
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Does it matter that Romney's god lives in the Planet Kolob? I guess it didn't to Republican/conservatives.
 
mertex said:
Does it matter that Romney's god lives in the Planet Kolob? I guess it didn't to Republican/conservatives.
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There are many examples of hypocrisy when you examine the actions and words of so called Christian politicians and corporate leaders etc. in fact you only need to look at religious leaders and priests themselves to observe the same thing.

The level of hypocrisy in the USA is astonishing. One wonders whether some of these so called Christians have even read the gospels.

Capitalism and corporatism are both morally incompatible with Christian ethics and morals and yet the fascist US Corpocracy has spun out the lies and distortions to persuade the gullible into thinking the opposite
 
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