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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    But here's the thing, that "limit of acceptability" is changing, it's moving. That's not because of me or because of you, it's because of what is now a majority of Americans who are saying and believing something different.

    You see marriage as a different thing than most people do, okay, so everyone else should follow your narrow vision? That's my point right there, people view marriage differently from person-to-person. There's no way to prove that "traditional marriage" is inherently right. Just because it's what has dominated society for thousands of years doesn't mean it's inherently correct. This is something even pro-slavery folks would have said too, "it's the tradition, so it's inherently right".
    That is the crux of the matter. In a government for and by the people when the people change the government changes. I hold that tradition for marriage is between a man and a woman but I don't hold that tradition cannot change. People steadfastly against gay marriage are going to lose the battle.
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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Look, I am not advocating allowing incest so please don't get me wrong, but I was addressing the legitimacy and equivalence of the presented argument that among consenting adults, how does it vary? Using the well it's bad for you genetically argument doesn't fly as extensive studies have been done in this area in the last 20 years and nothing really conclusive has been determined one way or the other. I agree that psychologically there is a legitimate argument for reasons against it, and that's good enough for me, but whether your moral idignation is religiously based or scientifically based makes a huge difference when arguing the facts.


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    Well, the genetic abnormality wasn't my argument against it. I was simply responding to the comment that it doesn't create genetic abnormalities.

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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    But you were ok with changing the definition of marriage to allow inter-racial marriage. So don't pretend that you are always against changing the definition of marriage. You are only against changing it when you don't agree with the change.


    If you bring something new to the table except the same old stale **** I will debate it with you......
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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If you bring something new to the table except the same old stale **** I will debate it with you......
    There is really nothing to debate. Gay marriage is coming to Washington St and the sky didn't fall.

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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    he's doing a poor job of trying to advance the fallacy that they are the same thing.
    If THAT was what he was trying to do....I would say an EXTREMELY poor job of advancing the fallacy. Weak.....
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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If you bring something new to the table except the same old stale **** I will debate it with you......
    Why not try bringing some honesty Navy Pride?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    Is it legal to marry a parent or sibling for anyone else?
    The incest laws haven't changed.
    Why is incest even involved? Why couldn't two relatives get married in a non sexual situation for the benefits they would get in such marriage.......Maybe they are already living together.
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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    There is really nothing to debate. Gay marriage is coming to Washington St and the sky didn't fall.
    Like Yogi Berra said "Its not over until its over." my left wing friend?
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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Like Yogi Berra said "Its not over until its over." my left wing friend?
    its over

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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If THAT was what he was trying to do....I would say an EXTREMELY poor job of advancing the fallacy. Weak.....
    Its not a fallacy. Its a valid argument. Anyone should be able to get married to anyone they want. Its all about freedom.

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