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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Right now, my best thought on where to move to is about six feet below ground level, right next to my father.
    Hysterical much?

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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No, it's a step towards SAMENESS, not Equality. It's the same problem that we have with the Feminist movement. That is, the unwillingness for society to accept in this day and age that some things are RIGHT and some things are WRONG, regardless of whatever emotional garbage you use to try and support it. When one accepts that something which is inherently WRONG is now RIGHT, the entire system gets thrown out of whack. Why do you think Western Society has been headed towards the toilet drain of history for the last Century? Mostly because we no longer accept that RIGHT and WRONG are immutable concepts.
    I just put your tears into a blender and made a shake, it was the tastiest thing I had all week.

    I won't accept the idea that marriage is only allowed for certain people based on whatever religious scripture says is "inherently right" or "inherently wrong". Religion and faith is for the INDIVIDUAL, it is for YOU. No one is forcing YOU to get gay married, no one is devaluing YOUR marriage. If anything, it's making it even more valuable because now everyone can share in the joy of getting married. Besides, gay marriage is already legal around the world, isn't your marriage already devalued? Is it like a proximity thing? Is your marriage valuable in Idaho but suddenly meaningless when you cross over to Washington? Can I get some more tears for my dinner tonight?

    Oh and check this out:
    Strong Support for Gay Marriage Now Exceeds Strong Opposition - ABC News

    A majority (50% +1) of Americans support gay marriage compared to a few years ago. The world is evolving past it's archaic biases, and Tigger, you're just gonna have to resolve your fear and hatred and accept it, or sit back and become an outcast like the pro-slavery, pro-segregation, pro-sexism crazies.

    This is the first step towards individuals attempting to force other people to find SSM and homosexual activities LEGAL, but socially acceptable
    This sounds eerily similar to arguments against any other major rights movement in the past couple of centuries. Yes, that is exactly my point, it is being forced on you in order to make it socially acceptable, if you can't learn to progress, you'll just have to deal with I guess. 25u04ch.gif


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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It devalues the entire concept of Marriage for individuals who should not be allowed to marry to do so. It turns the entire concept into a charade and a side-show; nothing more. I actually have no problem with "civil unions". So far as I'm concerned, the courts can allow any number of people, animals, plants. etc... to be united in a legal contract. HOWEVER, the word "marriage" has historically indicated a religious and social union beyond simply a legal one. That is where I have a problem. This is the first step towards individuals attempting to force other people to find SSM and homosexual activities LEGAL, but socially acceptable, and that is a major step in the wrong direction so far as I'm concerned.

    SEE THE POST BELOW FOR PROOF OF THAT....




    No, it's a step towards SAMENESS, not Equality. It's the same problem that we have with the Feminist movement. That is, the unwillingness for society to accept in this day and age that some things are RIGHT and some things are WRONG, regardless of whatever emotional garbage you use to try and support it. When one accepts that something which is inherently WRONG is now RIGHT, the entire system gets thrown out of whack. Why do you think Western Society has been headed towards the toilet drain of history for the last Century? Mostly because we no longer accept that RIGHT and WRONG are immutable concepts.
    your post might be more meaningful if they weren't littered with lies
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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Not true...The SCOTUS does not like to interfere in states rights.........Constitutional amendments are much harder to break then DOMA............DOMA has already been overturned in 6 states.

    On a side note the last activist judge in Iowa who approved SSM was voted out last night..........
    No, he wasn't NP.

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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It devalues the entire concept of Marriage for individuals who should not be allowed to marry to do so.
    That's your OPINION and you have every right in this Good Ol United States of America to have it.
    Just as I have every right to disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It turns the entire concept into a charade and a side-show; nothing more.
    That's your OPINION and you have every right in this Good Ol United States of America to have it.
    Just as I have every right to disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I actually have no problem with "civil unions". So far as I'm concerned, the courts can allow any number of people, animals, plants. etc... to be united in a legal contract. HOWEVER, the word "marriage" has historically indicated a religious and social union beyond simply a legal one.
    Blah,blah,blah,blah,religion,blah,blah,blah,tradit ion blah blah blah blah blah,blah blah blah blah society is going to crumble blah blah blah blah same old boring tired arguments that really prove nothing blah blah blah....

    Let's be honest shall we.

    It all boils down to this (in my Opinion,of course)...choose which ones seem to apply.
    1- "Tigger doesn't like it"
    2- "Tigger's ideological beliefs doesn't like it."
    3- "Tigger's spiritual belifs doesn't like it".
    4- "Tigger's Deity doesn't like it".
    5- "All of the above".

    Which is all fine and good by me,but may I point out that I personally am not you,I personally do not subscribe to either your ideology or your spiritual beliefs,and I don't believe in your Deity.
    And no one else in this country is required to do so either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    That is where I have a problem.
    If that is how you feel,then that is how you feel.There is really nothing I can do about that except state "I couldn't care less,it's not MY problem".

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    This is the first step towards individuals attempting to force other people to find SSM and homosexual activities LEGAL, but socially acceptable,
    Are armed groups of homosexuals trying to storm your house as I type this and force you to accept homosexuality? If so then I suggest you either defend yourself or call the police.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post

    and that is a major step in the wrong direction so far as I'm concerned.
    If that is how you feel,then that is how you feel.There is really nothing I can do about that except state "I couldn't care less,it's not MY problem".
    That's your OPINION and you have every right in this Good Ol United States of America to have it.
    Just as I have every right to disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    SEE THE POST BELOW FOR PROOF OF THAT....
    Let me see...why that looks to me that Cilogy was stating his OPINION.
    And he seems to be using what I believe is called "hyperbole".
    He's allowed to do that in this forum, I believe.

    But let me ask Cilogy this.
    "Are you at this moment armed with a group of equally armed homosexaulstrying to break into Tigger's home to force him into accepting homosexaulity?
    If you are,you should stop that,it isn't a very nice thing to your fellow human being".

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No, it's a step towards SAMENESS, not Equality.
    That's your OPINION and you have every right in this Good Ol United States of America to have it.
    Just as I have every right to disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It's the same problem that we have with the Feminist movement.
    What's this "we" crap,kemosabe"
    Speak for yourself.
    That's your OPINION and you have every right in this Good Ol United States of America to have it.
    Just as I have every right to disagree.

    I personally have no problem with the Feminist movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    That is, the unwillingness for society to accept in this day and age that some things are RIGHT and some things are WRONG,
    According to you.
    According to your ideological beliefs
    According to your spiritual beliefs.
    According to your Deity.

    None of which we Americans are required to follow.

    That's your OPINION and you have every right in this Good Ol United States of America to have it.
    Just as I have every right to disagree.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    regardless of whatever emotional garbage you use to try and support it.
    That's your OPINION and you have every right in this Good Ol United States of America to have it.
    Just as I have every right to disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    When one accepts that something which is inherently WRONG is now RIGHT, the entire system gets thrown out of whack. Why do you think Western Society has been headed towards the toilet drain of history for the last Century? Mostly because we no longer accept that RIGHT and WRONG are immutable concepts.
    According to you.
    According to your ideological beliefs
    According to your spiritual beliefs.
    According to your Deity.

    None of which we Americans are required to follow.

    That's your OPINION and you have every right in this Good Ol United States of America to have it.
    Just as I have every right to disagree.

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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I won't accept the idea that marriage is only allowed for certain people based on whatever religious scripture says is "inherently right" or "inherently wrong". Religion and faith is for the INDIVIDUAL, it is for YOU. No one is forcing YOU to get gay married, no one is devaluing YOUR marriage. If anything, it's making it even more valuable because now everyone can share in the joy of getting married. Besides, gay marriage is already legal around the world, isn't your marriage already devalued? Is it like a proximity thing? Is your marriage valuable in Idaho but suddenly meaningless when you cross over to Washington? Can I get some more tears for my dinner tonight?
    So far as I'm concerned the meaningful world drops off sharply at the US Border, so what people in other countries do is none of my concern or worry. Life is not about joy or happimess. It never has been and never will be.

    A word of caution.... wave that red cape in front of the bull long enough you might just get the horns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    A majority (50% +1) of Americans support gay marriage compared to a few years ago. The world is evolving past it's archaic biases, and Tigger, you're just gonna have to resolve your fear and hatred and accept it, or sit back and become an outcast like the pro-slavery, pro-segregation, pro-sexism crazies.
    I'm already an outcast. That happened at the moment of my birth due to physical issues and has simply continued with philosophical, emotional, and psychological ones as well. It's nothing new, and in fact something that I relish to a certain degree. I'll take my principles to my grave, even if they're what sends me there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    This sounds eerily similar to arguments against any other major rights movement in the past couple of centuries. Yes, that is exactly my point, it is being forced on you in order to make it socially acceptable, if you can't learn to progress, you'll just have to deal with I guess.
    Sorry, but you cannot FORCE me to accept ANYTHING. You can make it very unpleasant for me not to, but you cannot FORCE it upon me. Ask the two banks I no longer do business with because they do not have any MALE tellers on their staff.

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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    My oh my gay marriage certainly has brought out the drama queen in some people.

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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh hell no. Not this **** again.
    Oh, hell yes. "This ****" is already happening with gay marriage.

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    Ref. 74 supporters hanging on to hopes of a victory

    Looks like Reuters was a little premature on their call.

    Originally published November 7, 2012 at 9:52 PM | Page modified November 8, 2012 at 9:30 AM



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    Ref. 74 supporters hanging on to hopes of a victory

    Gay-marriage supporters across the country celebrated clear victories in three states Wednesday, but a measure in Washington remained too close to call.

    Ref. 74 supporters hanging on to hopes of a victory | Local News | The Seattle Times
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    Re: Gay marriage is approved by popular vote in Maine, Maryland

    Looks like the liberal news source Reuters was a litttle premature in calling this a done deal.


    Gay-marriage supporters across the country celebrated clear victories in three states Wednesday, but a measure in Washington remained too close to call.


    Ref. 74 supporters hanging on to hopes of a victory | Local News | The Seattle Times
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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