H. Lee White
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Might be meaningful if it weren't still illegal under federal law.
It seems strange nobody is considering why that happened in California, of all places.
The Mexicans are NOT going to allow Obama to take away this source of income from their country.
Not so fast here in Washington:
Marijuana: For many employees, it's legalization in name only
Marijuana: For many employees, it's legalization in name only » Kitsap Sun
The smart money will still get their drugs off the street. If you ever want to have a professional job, you don't want to have your name on any store's ID list of recreational pot buyers.
A quick google makes it appear that you're correct that the executive branch sets the scheduling of drugs.Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding that while Congress is who declares schedule I drugs (of which marijuana is one) illegal, it is the executive branch that determines which drugs are on that schedule. So theoretically, Obama could remove marijuana from the schedule 1 list unilaterally? I have seen no evidence in his first term that he would do that, but could he do it theoretically?
I hope they have better luck than California. We passed medical marijuana years ago, but that didn't stop the feds from swooping in, closing down legitimately licensed medical MJ stores, confiscating the stock and fining the owners out of existance.
Sweet!If a Supreme Court can legalize abortion, it sure as hell is capable of legalizing drugs for recreational use. It's not IF they do this, but WHEN. Same with gay marriage, human sacrifices, or any other perverted activity.
Sweet!
When can we expect to be able to do human sacrifices in the open again?
The Old Ones are insatiable.
Once the other states see how much money Colorado and Washington are going to make off this, they will want to follow suit. Like others before me have said, it's only a matter of time.
Why will it be any different than other produce?Now the price drops, and drops drastically, because there will be a lot of people that will feel they can supplement their incomes by selling a little here and there, people that think that won’t happen … are just kidding themselves. In Colorado pot is now going to be easily available to anyone that wants it, and the vast majority of these sales is going to be cash sales.
I predict that Colorado is going to “lose “ revenue from this new law, not gain it.
Why will it be any different than other produce?
I know a lot of people who grow their own tomatoes and basil. But most people don't. A few local farmers bust their asses and make a living growing them. But for the most part, you can't really make any money by growing and selling tomatoes or fresh herbs w/o investing a sizable chunk of change and an even larger chunk of effort.
Why will pot be different than various other produce?
It seems strange nobody is considering why that happened in California, of all places.
The Mexicans are NOT going to allow Obama to take away this source of income from their country.
Why will it be any different than other produce?
I know a lot of people who grow their own tomatoes and basil. But most people don't. A few local farmers bust their asses and make a living growing them. But for the most part, you can't really make any money by growing and selling tomatoes or fresh herbs w/o investing a sizable chunk of change and an even larger chunk of effort.
Why will pot be different than various other produce?
But w/o the govt interfering as much in the market I don't think that the prices will remain as high. PRices are kept artificially high because of the risks involved. If someone could grow their own risk free, would they still pay $200/oz?First because of price, I’m not sure what a ounce goes for where you are but it starts at about 200 an ounce . A single plant can yield between 5 and 10 oz making the return in savings or sales of $1,400 per plant … The comparisons you give, should even be funny to you. What farmer do you know that gets that sort of return per plant ??
If there's such a low barrier to entry, the market will see a glut of growers. Whoever is growing the best most efficiently will be the one who sets the price which other growers must undercut to do business.The cost to start growing is a bag or two of miracle grow potting soil, and a couple of large pots. Hardly the cost of setting up a garden or a farm ..
If nearly every smoker grows his own, then then not only is the supply going up, but the demand is going down. That also tells us that the price would go below the current price.I’m not saying that big time farming is going to start up … but I am saying is that nearly every smoker is going to grow his own, why .. Because it’s a simple thing to do, and the savings vrs buying it amounts to a good deal of money.
Maybe. But again, you won't be getting anything like the price you were getting when pot was illegal for the reasons I mentioned above.Now if you happen to be able to sell a few bags to your buddies .. Well that just offsets your growing costs.
I was thinking in a more general sense of pot being legal.It's still illegal in 48 states. Even though Washington and Colorado technically restrict the distribution to their own states, I think it's going to be inevitable that it will easily leak across their state borders. They'll become the suppliers for the rest of the country where it's illegal (at least until more states legalize it). So I don't think it's quite on par with tomatoes...at least not yet.
Why will it be any different than other produce?
I know a lot of people who grow their own tomatoes and basil. But most people don't. A few local farmers bust their asses and make a living growing them. But for the most part, you can't really make any money by growing and selling tomatoes or fresh herbs w/o investing a sizable chunk of change and an even larger chunk of effort.
Why will pot be different than various other produce?
But w/o the govt interfering as much in the market I don't think that the prices will remain as high. PRices are kept artificially high because of the risks involved. If someone could grow their own risk free, would they still pay $200/oz?
I think that if pot were legal, the price would plummet. I certainly don't think that the current prices in a market which the govt heavily interferes with will be any indication of what teh prices would be if the govt merely taxed pot instead of incarcerating the growers, sellers and buyers.
why would the price of pot, if it were legal be any higher than the price of basil.
If there's such a low barrier to entry, the market will see a glut of growers. Whoever is growing the best most efficiently will be the one who sets the price which other growers must undercut to do business.
Supply goes up, prices goes down. The easier it is to get started, the more the supply increases. The more the supply increases the less money you can demand for the product.
If nearly every smoker grows his own, then then not only is the supply going up, but the demand is going down. That also tells us that the price would go below the current price.
If it's so easy to grow, and there'll be so many people growing it, why won't it be priced like basil?
Maybe. But again, you won't be getting anything like the price you were getting when pot was illegal for the reasons I mentioned above.
It'd be like trying to sell one of your friends some zucchini you grew in your garden.
There're many more liters of vin de pays than grand cru.Fine weed is like fine wine, with commensurate valuation.