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    Re: Colorado, Washington Legalize Recreational Marijuana

    It amuses me that liberals want to create this all powerful federal system that strips states and citizens of any authority whatsoever to make decisions for themselves and then play the victim of the federal government when it comes to pot. Nothing like weed to turn liberals into libertarians.

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    Re: Colorado, Washington Legalize Recreational Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    It amuses me that liberals want to create this all powerful federal system that strips states and citizens of any authority whatsoever to make decisions for themselves and then play the victim of the federal government when it comes to pot. Nothing like weed to turn liberals into libertarians.
    Most liberals would say it should be legalized at the federal level, but one of the best ways to force the issue is to get a bunch of States to legalize it. Just like same sex marriage. It should be legalized at the federal level, but in the meantime we’ll take what we can get at the state level.

    But if something should be a right, it should be a right regardless of what state, county, city, or neighborhood you live in.

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    Re: Colorado, Washington Legalize Recreational Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    I certainly hope you're right. Frankly I'm somewhat appalled that this didn't happen in California first. Marijuana use isn't even remotely contentious in any of the urban environments (where the bulk of the state population lives). I'd be surprised if it's contentious in the non-urban environments, but I haven't really spent a lot of time outside of the major cities, so I can't be sure.
    Me too, but this is only if the governors of CO and WA have the stones to match their words. As to why not CA or even OR first - what can I say, stoners don't seem to organize well, they shine on voting and are so used to ducking attention, they don't know how to advertise beyond the echo chamber.

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    Re: Colorado, Washington Legalize Recreational Marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    It amuses me that liberals want to create this all powerful federal system that strips states and citizens of any authority whatsoever to make decisions for themselves and then play the victim of the federal government when it comes to pot. Nothing like weed to turn liberals into libertarians.
    Some of us live in the realm of both, there isn’t any “turning into” to happen. However I agree that switching views on the Constitutional relationship of Fed & State powers merely per issue, basing where you stand merely on where you sit and only voicing concern over “the 10th” to your separate agenda, blatantly delusive.

    Which is why I think these laws are largely symbolic without tacit agreement from, and co-operation by the Fed government. When it comes right down to it, while I think Gonzales v. Raich comes up against the edge of the envelope, the decision speaks to a very practical matter. It really could not come down another way without overruling existing president unless the State could somehow provide reasonable reassurance that interstate commerce will not occur, which they clearly hadn’t since the facts of the case were that someone (I think Raich himself, IIRC) had engaged in it.

    IMO the biggest matter is Federal government delisting MJ from schedule 1, where it has no business being (for any level of government).
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